1.Welcome and Anthony's hemp cigarette

Today I chat with Anthony de Clemente. Let's cue that intro! The big question is this. How do we use cycling as a tool to improve our health, our happiness and our long chances? That is the question. This podcast will give you the answers. My name is Anthony Walsh and welcome to the Roadman Podcast. Roman, how are you all keeping? Thanks for joining me for another episode of the Royal Man Cycling Podcast. I'm super pumped for today's guest. So for the last two and a half years, Boyle Hacking has been such a big part of my life and Boyle Hacking's often a misunderstood term and people think it always has to be crazy gadgets up your nose and microdokes and tiny supplements that most people can't even pronounce the name of. But it's a lot of common strategies and ancestral wisdom blended into how we live everyday life. An example, like most mornings I'll try and get up and I'll start my day with just some cold water, some gratitude and getting out in the sun and simple strategies like that. But one of the guys that I've been following and who is really trailblazer in this area of biohacking this today is Gaston, he's Anthony Deplemedi, he's a biohacking trailblazer, he's a best-selling author but what I think he does brilliantly is he deconstructs uncommon strategies that we can use to rapidly upgrade physical and mental performance. This episode we get into what we talk everything from, body composition, energy production, as a function, athletic performance, living longer. It's one of my favorite podcasts I've recorded in a long time. Anthony is also just a gent and a cut us out down and chat to him for errors. So without pushing this one off, any further folks, please welcome to the roadman podcast, Mr. Anthony D. Clemente. Thank you for having me, Anthony. Glad to be here. Anyone who's not watching on video won't notice that you've got some sort of roll up gone there some sort of blunt. I Do yes, it's a this is a Delta 8 THC hemp cigarette, so it's it's not weed, but it's close it's just much more mild, you know, you can smoke it like an herbal cigarette and Yeah, it's this company black leprechaun that actually Tori Pimes created and released and it's pretty good. I've just had it today for the first time and it's given me a nice little lift but still not interfering with cognitive function or you know my faculties throughout the day it's kind of energizing and pretty chill a lot more than if I was smoking weed I'd be I'd be on my ass right now but I can you know I can smoke this and enjoy. This is awesome I feel like if I end of the podcast right now it's still a win. If someone was a fucking entertaining stars. Oh, we got we got a lot more gravy where that came from. Yeah, it's funny. My podcasts are taking a turn down the, you know, semi narcotics route over the last couple of weeks. I had a ladder on last week, Danny Morel. I'm not sure if you come across him. Yeah, no, he's big into oil, Oscar, and ceremonies around that. So he was like, it changed his life. He built a company and sold it for like 1.1 billion. And then he went on this spiritual quest through plant medicine and he said this just completely changed his life. It started giving him tools to answer questions that he was asking about the meaning of life. Do I love my wife? I'm happy with myself. He said previously he just didn't have a framework or tools for answering those questions. Yeah, I flew to the jungles of Costa Rica with one of the guys on my team, his girlfriend and my brother back in 2019. And we did four ayahuasca ceremonies in a week period. definitely life-changing. Certainly something that can be helpful for endurance as well. You know, for some of your listeners that are looking to get an edge in that regard, I mean, I was still in Costa Rica at the, we went to a place called Rivmia, and I went for a run after our third ceremony, and I just kept cranking up the speed and cranking up the speed way past where I normally would be. And I felt like I could go for days. It was like, it was like I had twice the lungs is phenomenal. Have you looked at any of the reasons? Is it like delay time to exhaustion? Well, there could be a lot of reasons. I mean, I always go functions on a few different levels, so you've got it's an MAO inhibitor, so it has like natural anti-depressant effects. And we know that having your brain and specifically like the neurotransmitter balance in your brain, which are like your brain's chemicals, serotonin, dopamine, norepinephrine, acetylcholine, etc. Having those things in balance affects stress response. We become more resilient to stress, so that may have a secondary effect on endurance just in allowing our body to take on higher amounts of stress. But it also is a natural antibiotic, antiviral, it boosts the immune system and a lot Almost everybody has low levels of chronic infection. Many people are familiar with Lyme disease. They've done some tests and found that in as high as 70, 80% of the population. Now, what causes Lyme disease, which you typically could get from a tick or a variety of different insect bites, what causes that to wreak havoc on some people's mental and physical health versus not affecting other people? A lot of times it's their resistance to stress and the functionality and strength of their immune system. So what Iowaska does is it can also lower some of these low level chronic infections that are present in everybody while taking some of the burden off of your immune system. And when there are what low level chronic infections do in the body, one of the things that they do is they make our body less efficient at converting oxygen into energy, right, through via the mitochondria. Your mitochondria don't work as well.

2.Plant medicine and pathogen burden

They're dealing with additional toxins, biotoxins produced by these bacteria or viruses or parasites, fungi. And so by lowering your pathogen burden, pathogen being those, you know, bacteria, let's say, in this case, your mitochondria work better. body's oxygen efficiency and oxygen utilization goes up. And that could be another pathway where we see this plant medicine impacting at least in the short term ones endurance and capacity to do work. It's awesome because I actually haven't looked into it. I spoke to Danny on last week's podcast and he was talking about it. And my assumption about it was always that it's like a plant version of DMT, but it's just surrounded by a lot of extra ceremony and ritual. But I didn't realize the order sort of holistic benefits to it as well. So I'm definitely going to have to dig up some research papers and search check and I know. Yeah, it's been used as a medicine by the indigenous for thousands of years. And because it can, I mean, it was it was nature's one of nature's first antibiotics and they would go to it, not just for ritual, but a lot of times to cure some of these conditions that are of infectious causation and nature. And if it's cool with you, just because I like to get into zone two, like you do, and I think we're going to kind of find our flow state and just get chatting, I'm totally going to forget. I wanted to do something for your listeners for we're going to work with one guy who would like to take his endurance, physical and mental performance to the next level. And if someone's enjoying this conversation, it feels like they're fit for that. They can go to biohackercoaching.com and fill out a short form. And I'll hook them up with a nice discount knocking off 500 bucks just because they're a part of your tribe. So I think I'd mention that now biohackercoaching.com if you want to see if it's a mutual fit. And then now I don't have to think about it. We can just chat and have fun. I'll link it up in the show notes as well. Sweet. Thanks for that. I was like a few minutes early and I was flicking around on my phone on Twitter there. And just as you do, I flicked across somebody and somebody had liked something in my timeline. And however that algorithm works, but a Twitter profile popped up by someone I don't follow. And they were like, we're in a mask in the profile picture. And I was like, all right, that's weird. And just out of board, I clicked into it. And then their bio is like all about, you know, hashtag, vax, hashtag, get faxed. And then as you do, because I was just going down to rabbit hole with Twitter, I clicked into tweets and replies where you can see the conversations they've been engaged in and there are full gas abusing people for not being vaccinated. And so I was just sitting there kind of pondering the mindset of somebody who just abused, abused somebody else's free choice. And I was starting to think people are conflating health and medicine at the moment because they're not the same thing. And health is difficult. Health is the reason we have in my view chronic health problems, you know, from obesity to cardiac problems. People don't like to do hard things. You can take your job if you want. That's your choice you get to choose or not. And there's no Georgia for me around that. But health isn't that simple. It's not a quick job. It's not strap a mask on. It's the hundreds or thousands of little things that we do every day and that's the willpower to do them. It's the training, it's the sweating, it's the eating right. It's fucking hard. And I know this is something you're speaking about a lot of the moment and you're passionate about. I am. Yeah. So run with this. I was I was waiting as I was like, is there a question? No, no, it's more of it's more of amusing. It's like, it's this idea that we can take a job. So it's nearly where I want to bring our conversation. If this is the broader question for today, I want it get. So if the wrong way in my view to do it is Tinky can take a job or it's a COVID vaccine or another job and that's a band aid for all health problems. I'm going to come away from the podcast with given listeners a framework to take responsibility for their health. Yeah, absolutely. So I think part of the one of the challenges that we're seeing today and you know whether someone who's listening to this has gotten the jab, I just talked to one of our hockey guys who's Olympic gold medalist, three-time Stanley Cup winner. And he told me that he got the first shot, but will not be getting anymore. Absolutely hard stop after that. And we even had that one of my brother, his wife's best friend, came and stayed with us because she was actually, she lives in Mexico. She came to the States to get the shot. And then she was coming to stay with us. And I'm not really a huge believer in any of this fear porn. And I think a lot of this stuff like, oh, stay away from the vaccinated. They're going to shed spike proteins and kill you and give you the whole of cough. I'm not too concerned about that. So she came over and she spent two weeks with us. And then by the end of the two weeks, she was like, yeah, there's no chance I'm getting another one of these things. Like, absolutely not. And when she had a better understanding, I think part of what we're seeing is no one's really looked at the data. They're looking at information that is provided by people who have their intention is to get this in your body. We know it's not an actual vaccine. We should probably stop calling it that because it doesn't prevent infection.

3.Questioning the COVID jab data

It doesn't satisfy any of the criteria of an actual vaccine. It's a shot. And the true purpose of that shot, I think is yet to be determined. There are some hypotheses, but no one really knows for sure. The issue is no one's really looked at the data or a lot of people that got this jab never looked at the data. And the data tells us that it does not confer any added immunity beyond what your body would create if you just got COVID and got over it. You know, that's when we look at the data from a lot of different data points, that's what it shows. And for me, I'm sorry to cross out. This is why the debate becomes difficult because you hear at least in governments here and I catch somebody, America and media because I used to race over there instead of a passing interest in American culture and society and politics. But when you hear about follow the science, it's like, well, you can't just say follow the scientists because we're talking about follow the tobacco scientists. So we talk about follow the alcohol scientists or we talk about the big fire scientists. It's the same thing. It's like from what I've looked into is, there is no scientific base for giving somebody who's already developed natural antibodies and additional vaccine. Exactly. They're pooping all over the brand of science and the word. And really using it out of place because what they're doing and suggesting is complete opposite of actual science. You know, if you just look at this fact, this was, I was surprised to actually see this in the New York Times, but the most vaccinated country is Israel. And they now are among the most new outbreaks of COVID. Now, how does that happen if this is an actual jab? It doesn't. It's because a lot of these variants and breakout cases are due to the jab. It's not the people who are looking at the data, realizing things don't add up and deciding that you know what? I believe God gave me a pretty damn good immune system. And I know the way that that immune system works is to actually get exposed to things, the natural immunity and then you don't have to worry about the 30 variants that are probably coming because you're set. But the scariest part about it is it's the media pitting broader against broader friend against friend family member against family member because I friends who are scientists and legit scientists not you know fake news scientists there legit scientists and they're like if you are doing any science experiment you want a fucking control group. So you want a portion of the population not vaccinated in case there's maybe a minuscule chance I don't know the data but there's always a chance that it doesn't go as planned you want a control group. So instead of heralding people that have decided not to get the vaccine as oh you're doing a civic duty or a control group now you're a threat to your terror trust you own vaccinated or a terrorist. Yeah it's insane. It's not about health and it's not about a vaccine. When you come to terms with that, everything makes a lot more sense. This is put on, I believe, by orchestrated by people like Henry Kissinger, who's handled foreign affairs for the US for a long time, and a lot of the central bankers, the people who orchestrate wars to go into countries and enslave their citizens with fiat currency. And now they're doing some, they have something planned, and it involves getting this in the bodies of a lot of people. So the media, I almost, like I feel it's people are transparent with incentives. Like they're incentives, they need eyeballs on the TV. Like this fucking podcast is probably going to get more listens than a lot of the mainstream news outlets on their broadcast. They're struggling for news and like Trump's gone, Brexit's gone. Now it needs news. It needs people's attention. I wouldn't even be surprised if they brought Trump back because of that very point. know, you know, I've seen a bring bring bring back puppet a I was on my Twitter, Dave, Dave, Dave there for five minutes before, I was saying someone's waiting, isn't it funny to Taliban have a Twitter account, but Donald Trump doesn't Yeah, they've got it because they've got it because they want them to have it. You know what I mean? It's it's one of those situations where there's everything that you see on the news, I stopped watching the news decades ago, and maybe that's part of the reason why it was easy for me to immediately call bullshit on this in early 2020. But everything on the news is negative. Like you and I were talking about the importance of feeling good and happy, you know, your happiness, your internal state, your mood, your ability to feel gratitude and joyful about your life. That's hard to do if you're sitting in front of the idiot box watching negativity, you know? Especially when we know that our brains have a very difficult time differentiating between what's actually happening in real life and what we're seeing on a screen. And what breaks me with the whole thing is we miss the chance as a society, you know, to move past political division, religious division is our one over here, and put health and wellness at the forefront of a global agenda and say, you know, it's not okay to be 200 pounds overweight. There is a consequence to this on the health care system. Are you fat shaming? Are you fat shaming people? I'm just kidding. Like, this is the problem with it's a, you know, cancel culture has been an extension of that a fat shame and where he can't say anything. We've become the participation trophy generation. I was on with one of my clients yesterday who's like one of the toughest guys you'll ever meet. 2010 Stanley Cup finals, or maybe it was the playoffs. He took a hockey puck to the face in the middle of the game, lost 10 teeth, gets on the sideline, shakes it off, spits out his teeth and he goes, put me back in.

4.Where did the strong men go?

Those hockey players are next level, hard. next level, right? But even him, he's like the change I've seen in men over the past 11 years, it's mind blowing. You know, he's like, men have gotten so soft, they're failing to lead, they're doing all of this really sissy shit in the name of self-preservation. Whereas if you go back, we used to fucking ride into battle on horseback with swords, with uncertain futures ahead of us. But you know what I mean? Like the honor was to show up and fight with everything that you have. Where the fuck are those dudes right now? You know, where's the courage? Not like, where do you mask? You know what I mean? Like where's the courage? And where are the men stepping up and leading their families and leading their community and getting groups together that meet in person? You know, and talk about some of these things and say, hey, if we're really, if this is really about health, how could we make a change that has a positive impact on us as individuals because having a positive impact on us as individuals ripples out into the world around us and co-creates the new earth. How do we do that? I have a buddy, I used to race with Interonto, I've had him on the podcast a bunch of times, Ed Veal. When I chat to him, because cyclists, we're really into period eyes and training. So we're going through parts of base specific training, then we're moving high intensity stuff, race replication stuff. But the off-season cyclists tend to let go without fitness. But his theory was the first time I because I was in that group because that's traditional cycling training. Maybe come October, you let go of all your hard-air and fitness over the last 11 months, actively try put on weight, try eat like shit, try to go out, have late nights, and then you pick it back up in November, December and you start building again. But he was the first... I think if I was a cyclist, I'd rather focus on that part of the year. The first time I ever questioned it was when I met this guy at Veal and Ed just wouldn't let He let it drop a little bit because you have to let go of someone because you can't hold it up here all year round. Yeah. But he would only let go of small bit. And I'd be like, what are you trying to for? And he's like, it fucking doesn't matter. He's like, you ring me tomorrow. You're like, do you want to have a tire flipping contest? Do you want to run a marathon? Do you want to go 12 rounds in the ring? The home operator comes in. He's like, I'm fucking ready. I'm running. Like, and I was like, whoa. And I took so much from that. I was like, yeah, this game, that's taken back that idea of being the medieval man, right? and into the bomb, like he's ready. Yeah, and a lot of guys will say to themselves, like, well, I mean, it's not like we're at war right now. It's not like I'm a soldier. It's not like, you know, we're in this life or death situation. Guess what we fucking are. And if you're sitting on your ass, eating junk food, gaining a bunch of weight, you know, not training your mind and keeping your mental sword sharp. There's a lot of people that it's gonna be, It's gonna be a very rough ride these next few years and they may not be alive at the end of it if that's their path. How did you find your way into this weird, wonderful world we call Boyohaken? I got sick as fuck. I was really into health and personal training and I was working with a number of clients and doing everything I thought you were supposed to do. And I just started getting more and more sick. My body started breaking down, I was exhausted, My brain wasn't working. I was forgetting things. And I went to 12 doctors over the course of the year, trying to figure out what was going on. And they all kept telling me, there's nothing wrong with you. Finally saw a guy who was like, have you been checked for Lyme disease? And along this journey, I thought I had everything because Lyme is known as the great imitator. It mimics the symptoms of like 200 other conditions. So I got really good at like, how do you strengthen and nourish your adrenals? how do you identify toxicities in the body and get rid of those? Cause I thought it was everything before we finally got a test done for Lyme disease and it came back positive. Are you working full time? Like were you balancing a normal life before you became? So I was working on, yeah, I was working on my first online program. So this was in, well, actually, so this started happening in 2011 and I was really deep in working on the first program in 2012 and I released that in 2013 called the health blueprint. But where the biohacking really took over was after we identified that it was Lyme disease. It's like, okay, how do we properly address this infection without destroying my gut or my immune system? And then how do we build back stronger? And almost like one of the doctors I was working with jokingly called me Humpty Dumpty, because it was like, you know, you get so many secondary health challenges that result when you've had Lyme disease for years or decades and not known about it, that you got to almost like put the pieces back together, you know, and bring the body back into homeostasis. So I was working. I had a company that we did nightlife and hospitality marketing and promotions in Chicago. We built a pretty big following. We were brought on by like MTV to do MTV spring break in Las Vegas and got to like hang out with Snoop Dogg and Neo and Wiz Khalifa and stuff like that. So I was doing that, but I was making the transition because I'd always been incredibly passionate and helped people in the realm of health and fitness.

5.Pushing through chronic illness

I didn't think that it was something that I could even earn enough of a living on to support a family. And I wanna have a family in the future and kids and things like that. So it just stayed in that hobby category, right? So this was a transition period where I was creating, some, I was taking some of the wisdom that I'd learned over the years, putting it into an online program while I kind of faded out on the nightlife market team. How do you find that energy and that motivation when you're sick to do this level of, I know I've been sick for the last week. We were meant to record last week and I was dying sick and I've been struggling with it for a week. And I'm still churning out some podcasting. I was like, you're not sick. I seen you on the podcast and I was like, bro, I'm fucking dead. Like, I wanted us to have a good chat. So I was like, I want my energy levels to be proper. But I've been churning out some pretty sloppy podcast for the last week because I've been sick. But how do you... How do you get that energy when your botland loins disease to go into this deep research mode? It can be hard, man. It can be very, very hard, very challenging. And you take it one day at a time and you focus on putting one foot in front of the other. Some days I would push myself. I've always been more of a pusher, which also can sometimes backfire if you run your body into the ground, which I've done. So I'd always push myself and find that limit of what can I safely do without compromising future health and recovery and that sort of thing. And some days it was a lot of time and some days it was like an hour or two and that was it and it's hard to get out of bed and you do that and then you get back in bed. You know that's kind of where it was for a little bit when it was when it was really challenging but you take it day by day, you do your best, you know the moment right in front of you is really all that matters and as long as you're not you know cutting short you know Robin Peter to pay Paul taking energy from tomorrow to try to get it done today. But, you know, was there one specific author or mentor or guru for once? What better word that you kind of drew inspiration from? Like Ben Greenfield, the Dave Asprey, any of these type characters? You know, I respect both of those guys a lot. Ben and I hung out in the forests of Helsinki and we were doing cold plunges in a freezing river, you know, 30, 31, 32 degrees flowing river. You know, the only reason it's not flowing is because it's moving so fast. Then we're doing naked kettlebell swings under the moonlight. Yeah. It broke back now and there. Yeah, it did go gay, but very well could have if there was other people there. If you were going to be gay, Ben Greenfield, come meet a man like... Yeah, yeah, I could see that. I could see that. It's never been my interest, but you know what I mean? To each his own, whatever. Ben's in good shape. It was a good looking man. Yeah, if someone wants to go gay for him, power to them. I don't think Ben's gay though. So no, he's married with kids. Yeah, I mean, Russell Brunson was a big influence. You know, I maxed out my credit card to work with him in 2014. Mike Geary, who created over, you know, probably a decade and a half ago, he created a course called The Truth About Abs. He was one of the first guys to make a million dollars a month selling ebooks. And Tim Ferriss wrote an article about him that really opened my eyes. And I was like, wait a minute, I'm here. Blust in my butt working, you know, working one on one with clients, you know, running, running myself ragged from wake up to, to when I go to bed. And I could be taking this wisdom and sharing it in a much more effective way, reaching a lot more people all over the world, not being tied to one geographical location. I need to, I need to do this. Isn't it amazing when you see dudes like that? And Russell, obviously, being that soldier as well, who's Max Decradicar for a Russell Brunson course. But I remember him sharing a story of John Lee Dumas, who sold a million dollars in a day. And you see that it calibrates your expectations at a different level. Totally, totally. And that's a form of getting outside your comfort zone is seeing what's possible, the same way that no one could break the four minute mile, and then all of a sudden Roger Vanister did it. and then you have like a bunch of people breaking it the next year. It's a lot of these barriers are mental. Whether we're talking about, whether we're talking about the Boogie Man virus or we're talking about training or we're talking about surrounding yourself with people who expand your mind to new potentialities that inspire you to push yourself. And we have, speaking of Roger Bonaster, we had a guy called Ashton Lamby from the US and it's funny, this has got almost no mainstream attention. Ashton Lamby broke. We're recording this. I would actually happen yesterday, but when Nick people listened to this, I'd be like two weeks ago, Ashton Lamby broke four minutes for four kilometers yesterday. It's the first time it's ever been done in the history of Soyclon. It's our four minute mile. And he broke it, it attracted Mexico yesterday. It's fucking awesome. I'm really excited. Four kilometers in four minutes? Yeah, 3.59 year out of then. It's stored like since the history, since the beginning of Soyclon. like this was the mark everyone was going for. And the USK had broke it and...

6.Breaking records and the Banister effect

That's awesome. How old is he? He's not, I'm gonna say he's 25, 26. He's not an old guy. And he's not a world to our professional leader. He's not in the top tier of it. But he's just, he's a scientist and he reverse engineered this. Like every single aspect of it, you know, rolling resistance, coefficient of frontal drag, nothing was left to chance. But I'm super excited to see now, do we get the Roger Vanusseur effect where over the next six months, there's 10 guys break the four minute mark. Totally, totally, yes. I mean, the answer is yes, it's inevitable. And we can talk about some stuff on this podcast that if there's any guys listening that are close to being able to do something like that, there are many biohacks, habits, health upgrades that can get, even at the elite level, I'm talking Olympic level, one to five percent improvements in a very short period of time. So it's a pretty exciting time to be alive and I do anticipate the Roger Banister effect with what went down with Ashton Lambie. He'll probably have a number of people following in his footsteps. Because there's a quote I'm not sure if I heard that in one of your videos or in your social posts, but you said that extremes informed the mean. What do you mean by that? Yeah, so the same things that work if you are dealing with a chronic health issue like cancer, right? We know a lot of cancers are caused by low level chronic infections by toxins in the body by compromised ability to utilize oxygen, right? It's a decreased oxygen state that results in part from those toxins and infections. Well, some of the same things that help someone to overcome cancer can also be utilized to to help someone who's more average, or let's say a professional cyclist that's just looking to get the edge. So the mean is like the average, and you look at the extremes as one extreme is people dealing with health issues. The other extreme is people like LeBron James or Ashton Lambie. If Ashton Lambie and ID constructed some of the things he's doing and took, put together some tools to help him perhaps even do that even faster, or do it again with lower perceived exertion. You know what I mean? Those same things also apply to the mean. Your weekend warrior cyclist, who's just looking to get his performance, to its peak potential, but he only rides once or twice a week. That's what we mean by the extremes and form the mean. And my experience with this is being insane because we spoke briefly off air and I was telling how I stopped cycling and kind of went away on this quest. And while I was on this quest to figure out how to balance, essentially how to have it all. Like how to balance good relationship, family relationship with athletic performance, with building a business, with all this stuff. And that's when I found biohacking and I got joined into it. And it worked spectacular results on me, but what was even crazier for me was it was a buddy of mine and he's an overweight ex, you know, local footballer here, local sports called Gaelic Games. And, you know, he's he takes a recreational drinker in the US, you'd call him an alcoholic. Yeah, I drink it twice a day. We call it recreational over here. That's great. Yeah. He said to me, like, you know, all that stuff you've done to get back in shape. He's like, we do it on me. And I was like, oh, fuck bro, you don't need that. You just need to get a walk and you just need to get moving. And then he kept knocking back on the booze a little bit. Yeah, like cut the drink and back to once a day. You'll be good. He's like, no, come on, let's do it. Let's do it. He dagged me for months. And eventually I got it. But I decided to expand that into my 10 most degenerate friends. So I called it like kind of tongue in cheek, my degenerate beta group. So it was all guys who are like, you know, some recreational slash habitual drug user, some heavy drinkers, bad diet, other guys who are just busy in work and family commitments and had let themselves slip. But I started doing some of the gratitude stuff, journaling, cold therapy, light therapy, son of work, just getting out in the sunlight and then adding in some stuff, intermittent fasting and holy fuck, if the results on me were a two, three percent gain, small dip in body fat. These lads were dropping like 40 kilograms. They were going back. Hadn't had sex with their wife in like five years and now they're going back like I'd sex like five times this week. It was insane. Nice. That's fantastic. Yeah, he had a coaching company now because I started a coaching company when I was racing full time and so a coaching company in various iterations been going 10 years. But that went out that was like the most rewarding and fulfilling experience of the coaching company. Just seeing these guys who weren't athletes, who were Joes. And a lot of the stuff you're talking about like the extremes in forming the mean, it's like the extremes in forming like the far end of the spectrum is some crazy powerful stuff. Yeah, absolutely. And I mean, we forget, especially because we're used to walking around with clothes and there's so many distractions and we're taught that we need to buy all of these toys. We forget that our most valuable assets, it's our mind, our body, our spirit. It's this vehicle. And there's a lot of guys that are like, I was just hearing a story the other day about a guy who his wife was kind of, she's into like rugged dudes, a little bit more rugged than he is, outdoorsman kind of gun types. And he went and he got himself like a badass, like tough truck and a bunch of guns. And now he's like shooting guns and stuff like that.

7.Self-respect starts with your body

My buddy who went to visit him is like, yeah, but he's fucking fattish shit. He's got a belly, he acts like a pussy. You know what I mean? He's like, he's like, he's doing all this stuff to like look tough, but he actually looks like job of the hut and his wife's walking all over him. You know what I mean? So I think it's important too, that we first tend to our most important asset before we distract ourselves with all these external toys. And remember that like, your body is such an important source of self-respect and, you know, self-respect is what commands respect from others. And, and if we're, if we look like shit, no matter how many toys you buy or whatnot, yeah, you're probably going to find yourself in a situation where your wife either doesn't want to bang you or she's pity banging you or she feels obligated to do it, but no guy wants to come from that place. You know, you want to, you want to be the guy at the end of your story. I, Donnie Morrell that I had on last week, he, we were having a conversation of a sort of parallel this and he said to me, it all has to come from love. There's a difference between having and being and I taught, you know, he's an awesome dude, but all billionaires kind of dress like wizards. They kind of have this wizard cape and then they wear the mad wizard hat and I was like, the wizard is talking to Mad shit here. Like, it all comes from love, but then he actually, over the next five minutes, he unpacked it brilliantly. And he talked about how if you truly love yourself, like not some bullshit, like, I love myself, you know, for an Instagram post, if you have absolute love for yourself in a non-arligant way, you're going to put a certain fuel into your body because if you love yourself, you're not going to order shit takeaway. If you love yourself, you're going to be present in conversations, you're not going to be on your phone distracted because that's something somebody doesn't love themselves does. You're going to drive a certain car, you're going to have certain money in your life because money gives you freedom and you're not going to see the person you love enslaved and work in a nine to five job they don't like. And he's like, it's all love. It has to be starting from love. And I was like, shit, I'd never, I'd never heard that before. It's a good point. You know, I would even add to it that sometimes developing self-love can be challenging, especially for men, you know, where there's a lot of parts of growing up as a man where we're rewarded for not feeling, you know, I didn't, I'd grown up, I never saw my dad cry at all. And when I was in my twenties, I asked my mom, have you ever seen dad cry? She was like, once. When you, when you were born, you know, and that was it. So I was like, I was like, okay, men don't cry, men don't emote. That can make it challenging when all of a sudden you realize that self love is important. And for a lot of guys, there can be a sort of stepping stone path to get there. If that's, you know, it's got to be an intention first and foremost. You got to say, Hey, I'm sometimes pretty shitty to myself. I need to learn and practice and develop and strengthen some of this self love. But there's also a sort of mechanical way of doing it along with the heart-centered path of developing self-love. And that is invest in yourself early in the day. Get up and make one of the first things that you do moving your body, getting to work out in. Even if it's just 10 or 20 minutes, that investment of energy makes it infinitely less likely that you're going to eat bad food or make other choices that sabotage because you actually output energy, right? And then you have this habit of where you're in a way showing yourself love, as long as you don't work out in like some masochistic, you know, I'm gonna torture myself kind of way every time, but you know, where you're doing it because it's gonna elevate your physical, mental, spiritual health, then you have it kind of coming from both angles and you're not sitting there like the monk on the mountain saying, okay, everything's going to be good. As soon as I develop the self love and I'm going to stay on top of the mountain in the cross, like it's seated position until I do. Yeah, I love that. I love this idea of alignment. And I talk to clients about this all the time. Like clients will be onto me with the latest recovery biohack. Maybe it's a set of compression boots. And they're like, do the compression boots work? And I'm like, you know, maybe they work. Maybe they don't work so good. But what's important is the alignment that the compression boots give you. Because if you're the sort of dude who goes out for a two-tr-r boy-cry, and you come home and you could put on a pair of compression boots, you're very rarely going to pick up the phone and order a 16-inch pizza. Yeah. So there's alignment with your nutrition. You're very rarely going to be sitting there drinking a six-pack of beer. You're more likely to sit there drinking your protein recovery drink. Same thing where you're talking in the morning, where you get up and you start your day. You're already starting your day in a positive alignment. Like, you're not going to go from this beautiful, you know, turkey, forky minute routine first thing in the morning to like, you know, working out a Burger King for the afternoon and, you know, chugging fucking milkshakes and Big Macs. Mm hmm. Yeah, for sure. For sure. I read a great book. I think it's Tony Robbins, money master the game. And the premise of the book is he speaks, he uses his access as, you know, being Tony Robbins to speak to some of the best financial advisors in the world.

8.Advice for raising healthy kids

A billionaire is all world's free hedge fund out. And the book is, he poses one question to them. He said, if you couldn't pass any of your money, any of your financial assets onto your kids, but you could only give them one piece of advice, what would that advice be? And you've spoke about the desire to have kids later in life. But if you could give them this framework for success with their health, what would that look like? Framework for success with their health? Yeah. Yeah. You know, I would. Actually, let's not narrow it to health. You go whatever way I do, what would I? Yeah. I would start first and foremost by letting them know that and truly feel loved in my presence and to know that they're safe and protected. They've got someone that has their back, someone that thinks they are brilliant and believes in them. And in instilling that foundation, I believe a lot of other things fall into place. And then by living by example myself, kids learn by seeing, you know what I mean? What you do? What how do you behave? How do you handle situations? By me living and embodying most importantly the very same things that I want to instill in my children, they will start to embody that themselves. They will want to be involved in it. They will want to do it in part because it's time with dad, you know, and you make it fun and establish healthy anchors and associations to things like fueling your body with good nutrition and getting outside in nature in the sun. And you know what I mean? And teaching them to think for themselves so that they can differentiate between propaganda that's coming through the mainstream media versus a scientific journal that is sharing something that could really help them level up their game. Yeah, I think that's a great answer. It's a great point. That's something a lot of people overlook. I want to just to get into the final quarter to use your US sports analogies. I want to get into your specific area of expertise and get into some of the strategies you use on an everyday basis. maybe just keep it in mind that the target audience for the podcast and definitely for athletes that are listening to this podcast are all very time crunch dudes. They're all, you know, they're high achievers, they're corporate, they're fully-nanced dudes, but they all have that commonality of time is so precious, split between work family and trying to look after their body. Yeah, well, those are the type of people that we help where time is their least abundant commodity, right? And one of the things that I did a few years ago, actually, when all this stuff started in early 2020, I got super, super depressed. My mood was shit. And it felt it almost felt like my brain broke. And I started doing a bunch of research, and came across some natural substances. But one of the most exciting things was is a transcranial magnetic stimulation. It's this process where you put on a helmet and they stimulate your brain with a magnetic field. And what a lot of the scientific research shows us is that this results in neurogenesis. So the growth of new brain cells and new neural connections in the brain. It can help you learn things faster. There's a much lesser version of this that's on the market called the halo sport, where you can stimulate the brain with a low level. And that's it's an electric current. And a lot of our clients will have them use it for 15 or 20 minutes while they're warming up before they do their, before they engage in their exercise. And it improves explosive power. You can lift more weight, your endurance improves, or at least you're able to do the same things with lower perceived exertion. And this, so the transcranial magnetic stimulation is like a medical grade version of that. And I was blown away, not just in how much it had a positive impact on my mood, my cognition, my brain was firing faster. And there's a number of cycling teams that will actually go in and do it for two weeks before their big races, because they see a 10 to 20% increase in pedal cadence with a decreased perceived exertion. So they're going 10 or 20% faster, but feeling the same or even like it's easier. So was this a machine you would own or is this you'd go into an institution? No, the machines, the machines, I mean, you could own a Halo sport. We have a discount code with them. I think it's just biohacks if someone wanted to pick that up. But the brain's way machine, which is the transcranial magnetic stimulation device brand that I used, you're looking at a couple hundred thousand bucks. So you go to a place that does it, and you go in for a number of different sessions, depending on what your goals are. But a lot of these cycling teams, they'll do it for a week or two. So five or ten sessions leading up to a big race. And yeah, some of the teams that are doing it just just crush everybody. That's awesome. I'm like an unfair advantage. How important is stuff like do you use like like therapies or things like you? I do. I've had a Jew for a few years. I don't use it that often. One of the guys that I've had on the podcast, he's got a company EMR tech. I actually like their technology more than the Jew. It's more powerful. They've got some some different things going on, but they're both. They're both great. And now I'm much more nature-based. I give a lot of my light therapy from the sun. I'm out, I mean, you can see I'm outside right now. My apologies for the lawnmower in the background. I'm assuming you guys. You can't hear too bad, huh? You can't, all right, nice. So I get, I spend a ton of time outside barefoot and I get a lot of my light therapy that way.

9.Saunas and the niacin protocol

But I do use strategically used red light and infrared light. I've got a clear light sauna that I use two to five, six times a week. Nice to talk to us. Because I know there's a lot of people on the fence where should they get a sauna? Should they not get a sauna? Should they get into the gym? And then we've got all this, the circle back to the beginning. We got all these weird fucking tutors. Do you have your COVID passport to get into gym? So a lot of people are thinking, oh, should I get in for red sauna in the house? Is it worth the investments? First, I do what you and I have done, which is get some land outside of cities where you could go and you've got a water source and you could grow your own food. Once that's covered, then yeah, it could be a great investment to get a sauna. But I don't want to have you misprioritizing this. I love having a sauna. It's very helpful for recovery. If you're feeling a little bit lazy, you can do a 20 or 30 minute workout followed by by 30 minutes in the sauna and your body thinks you've just done a 60-minute workout. And it's sending a lot of the same signals. It's great for detoxification of heavy metals, chemicals, pesticides, those sorts of things. And it's also... You have a sauna protocol? I do, yeah. So we do... We have a protocol that utilizes a number of different substances including niacin, NSTL-16. So niacin is really good for causing fat cells to rupture. And our fat cells adipose tissues where we store a lot of toxins. So by taking a strategic dose of niacin that we help people kind of ramp up and over a period of time, you're able to encourage these fat cells to rupture. You do that right before you work out and then get in the sauna and we stack it with a number of other things like key electrolytes and minerals and enacetylcysteine, which is a precursor to glutathione, your body's master antioxidant, so that you're recovering faster from your training sessions. And you think about a guy who every time he trains, he's got to take the next day off or he's got to go, you know, hard day, light day versus a guy that wakes up feeling fresh each day. It's going to be two completely different races when they compete head to head. So we stack some of these things to help the body flush out lactic acid to help you buffer and neutralize free radicals and oxidative stress in the body. And all of that allows you to perform better, to have a higher work output, to feel better while you're doing it and to have higher oxygen utilization and higher oxygen efficiency in the body when you do train. Yeah, I think it was a nice point that you prefaced that with like having the outdoor space that you can get into because so much of biohacking, I think we're led down a commercial path with it. You have to have, you know, I've had a guest on last week and it is a cool products Ice Barrel and I have one on the way in moments like it's awesome but you don't need an ice barrel to get cold exposure. You can just turn your shower to cold water or you can jump into the sea. You know, so there's so much of the good stuff that I see you promoting that isn't just around. you've got to drop money on this. You're such a great and positive advocate for being outside, being barefoot, getting back to nature. And that's why I'm definitely sort of magnetized towards a lot of your content. Well, thank you. I appreciate that. Yeah. I mean, we released the BioHackers Guide to upgraded energy and focus in 2016. And I talked about it in there. I'm like, hey, we're going to share a lot of stuff here that is, that are a powerful way to upgrade your physical and mental performance. but make no mistake, they are replicating things that happen naturally in nature, you know, and in that regard, they're a poor substitute. I haven't found anything that, you know, that there's no light therapy device that is better than the Sun, right? There's no cold therapy tub of any form that's better than getting in the, you know, the Nantahala River in North Carolina China and having 50 degree water rushing past you. You know what I mean? And harmonizing your body and your cells with the Schumann resonance, the frequency of the earth. That's the best pulsed electromagnetic field machine. It's not some beamer or on the net. Those are great companies, but they're not mother nature. There's a brilliant guest on the podcast. I've got a couple of months back. I'm going to send you a link to him. His name's Fentoft. He was one of the best cyclists in the world. He led the Shearer of the Talia. He was at the top top tier of professional cycling for a decade and a half. But I called him the original biohacker because I first came across him when I was racing in Canada. And he was only an urban mitt at the time. I heard about this dude who had built a trailer and he used to tow his dog across the entire Canada, wild camp and along the way to a race. And he wouldn't just show up at the race. He'd win the pro race and then he'd pedal home. he eventually got his world tour contract, but I chat to him and he's got some wild stories about fighting wolves in the forest and he went on living in an door and somebody said, do you want to go for a training ride? His training ride's going to be nine days. He just head out the door and he'll be living off the land and he's a fucking dude. I'll send you on the link to him. Yeah, that'd be great. He sounds gangster and like a wise dude. But I want to finish up on something that's very topical in cycling at the moment and across into your area of competency, a key tone use.

10.Ketones and baking soda for endurance

A lot of the highest level cyclists at the moment are starting to use key tones. And it's a little bit of, it's the 0.001% of the top guys are doing it. Are the top guys, are the top guys because they're doing it? Or are they the top guys and then they just happen to be doing it? It's unclear really. But I'd like to know a little bit more about what you think on ketones, I kind of benefit endurance athletes. For endurance athletes, they're extremely applicable. And if I was an endurance athlete, I would be utilizing vitamin IVs, I'd be utilizing transcranial magnetic stimulation, I'd be utilizing ketones, I'd be utilizing amino acids, perfect amino acids as a product that we use with a lot of our athletes. and maybe even baking soda as a way to kind of. Work so far out like we talked about. Ash and Lambian, there's no doubt he was using baking soda. It's all in the least guys are on the. For sure. For sure. Bad case of the shits. Yeah, it can. If you take too much and you don't step up. I think that's all for. For anyone listening, you would want to start with like a quarter of a teaspoon in a glass of water and then just go out by like a quarter teaspoon each workout. You take it about like 20 to 40 minutes before your workout. And then you can go as high as two teaspoons or I know guys that do more, but if you jump right to two teaspoons or even one teaspoon, yeah, you're probably in for a long afternoon of shitting your brains out enough disaster pants. You might be on the side of the road squat and digging a hole in squat. But yeah, the ketones are extremely effective. And there's, there's the ketone esters that a lot of the cyclists are using that were just prohibitively expensive for a really long time. And now there's a number of companies like Provit that make Keto OS. They've got a NAT product that's all natural. And you can get it charged, which means containing caffeine and uncharged, which is just no caffeine. But stacking ketones and strategically timing that sometimes along with a sugar source, like a glucose source, and people might freak out about their insulin and whatnot, but cyclists know if you stack ketones and or at least endurance athletes know if you stack ketones and sugar, while it's not something that would typically happen in nature, organically in the body, because ketones are produced when we're fasting or when we're on like a high fat, moderate protein, low carb diet, you're not gonna have a situation where you've got carbs and glucose really high and ketones high, but if you're trying to win a race, it can be very effective. Yeah, I've played around with some of our athletes on mixing some proven ketones with some glucose informing into a little gel-up look. Works so well. Yeah, it does, right, exactly, exactly nice. But yeah, look, I could talk all noise about this stuff because it's fascinating, and you can go deeper and deeper down the rabbit hole. If somebody wants to continue this conversation with you, Anthony, what's the best place? Your Instagram is pure fire. Definitely go and check that out. What's the hunt on that again? Yeah, so that's biohacking secrets. Who knows how long that's gonna be around? I'm a little surprised I'm still here, but enjoying every day. And yeah, so if they wanna check that out, you go to biohacking secrets. And then you could just shoot me a DM on there if you wanna talk more about coaching or some of the other things that we've got going on. We do a men's event called Ultimate Biohacking Experience that's picking back up in 2022. And all that is, you know, you can go to biohacking coaching for the coaching stuff or the ultimate, I think it's just ultimate biohacking experience.com for the event stuff or just shoot me a DM on Instagram if you enjoyed this episode. If you get canceled on someone else's reach out to you, do you have a daily email, a weekly email? Yes, we have an email newsletter. Even that actually got suppressed recently. We were getting 30, 40% open rates to a list of 65,000 people. And then overnight it just went down to two. It's boiled the way that can happen. Yeah, I didn't realize they could even censor all this shit. I was like, how are they doing this? But so we're actually in the process of fixing that now, but we do have, if you go to biohackingsecrets.com and pick up the book or biohackersguide.com and pick up the book, it subscribes you to our email newsletter and we share tips there. And I've got a bunch of good stuff queued up, but I don't want to send it to like, where I know our IP address has been flagged and the email open rates 2%, because I know the other 38% of people want to see what I'm talking about. So trying to- Yeah, 100%. And I can highly recommend to Boy, I can see your book as well. It's something that got me started. I was very helpful in this journey. Anthony, you're a busy man. I do really appreciate you taking the time to chat. Cool. Thank you, Anthony. Appreciate you having me on. Really enjoyed it, brother. Me too.