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This week Anthony and Sarah tackle whether race organizers are deliberately making courses more dangerous for entertainment value, dig into testosterone optimization for cyclists, explore the science behind nasal strips, and break down Shimano's new 13-speed groupset so you don't feel lost in your cycling group chat.

Key Takeaways

Race organizers have significant power to make courses more dangerous (like the notorious Naples finish), but riders aren't equally equipped to push back—consenting to risk is different from having risk imposed on you.
Low testosterone doesn't necessarily need treatment; focus first on whether you're actually symptomatic (lethargy, low drive, difficulty building muscle) before pursuing replacement therapy.
Nasal strips are a cheap marginal gain worth trying, especially for endurance sports—studies show mixed results objectively, but subjective feel matters more in cycling.
A 13-speed groupset is simply the latest evolution of gear technology with one extra cog; the real improvements come from better shifting mechanics, lighter components, and seamless front-to-back transitions.
Vitamin D and zinc are the foundational precursors for natural testosterone production—before considering any interventions, ensure you're getting adequate intake through diet or supplements.

Expert Quotes

"I think the risks need to be risks that the riders are consenting to take—that's where it's different. A sprint finish? That's consenting. Barriers with legs sticking out that cause crashes? That's not."

"It is race organizers making stuff more dangerous for our entertainment, it's simple as that... this kind of jeopardy and not knowing what the outcome is—that is like cocaine for viewers."

"The benefits of nasal strips are more pronounced in endurance sports that rely heavily on efficient oxygen uptake compared to sports where short bursts of intense efforts are involved."

KEY QUOTES

“The risks need to be risks that the Riders are consenting to take. So if we talk about a Sprint finish the risk the Riders are consenting to take is they're buying off each shoulder or they're going through gaps. A risk they're not consenting to take is the legs of the barriers sticking out and they hit the legs of the barriers that cause a crash.”
Anthony Walsh — Roadman Cycling podcast host

“The basic stuff for creating testosterone which we absolutely need it's vitamin D which I've talked about and zinc because they're the precursors that are crucial for making testosterone they're the raw ingredients so you need to make sure you're getting them either in foods like oysters beef pumpkin seeds for zinc or you're actually just taking supplements for this stuff.”
Anthony Walsh — Roadman Cycling podcast host

“I don't think it's something you should consider until you actually exhaust the other Alternatives. Are you symptomatic I think that's more important so the symptoms of low testosterone there like General lethargy like low energy levels lack and drive you're starting to find it more difficult to put on muscle mass you're putting on weight easier libido is dropping these are Telltale signs that you may want to investigate further.”
Anthony Walsh — Roadman Cycling podcast host

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Are race organizers endangering riders?

Welcome to this week's rer support this week we're going to talk about when you should consider taking testosterone Shimano have a new 13 speed group set but before all that we're going to talk about the jur ofalia and our race organizers deliberately endangering writers for viewer entertainments let's Jump Right In Sarah Anthony how are you let's jump into these questions a few juicy ones this week right let's get cracking hi Anthony and Sarah I've been watching cycling Racing for a few years now and something I always wondered and it was brought home even more by garant Thomas's comment after a stage in the jro Talia this week where he was commentating on how dangerous the stage was I know that cycling racing is dangerous but are the organizers pushing it too far now with crazy Ro really punishing terrain and finishes like the one we saw in Naples what do you think Grant's Great Value I think he always has these quotes like what was his quote where clowns in a circus yeah I mean he's very outspoken because he's he's really like an veteran in the palace France you can do what you want you can do whatever you want yeah exactly got that before I answer that and to be fair to G he was super composed earlier in the week when after his time trial the Euros sport interviewer asked him the most dis sensitive patronizing question he talked about how ernman and everyone else on the team basically Ghana performed super in the time TR except him and he just replied thanks me I'd say that interviewer got brought in by it was EUR Sportage interviewer got brought in by the bosses and got like spanked over that because that was really appalling and you could tell Gant kept his composure beautifully he's like I would have absolutely lost it yeah he was drinking out of a bottle at the time I surprised he didn't empty the bottle over here the interviewers you could tell he was pissed off but he really kept his composure and he is he's such a stalworth of the sport you just trust everything that Gant says well I do anyway and I think that when he says that a race he came down at this uh was this the stage where he came down or was brought down no we came down ear stage but not relate to the finish right okay just you know J crash as it is a pinch point but yeah now the finish in Naples it's it's kind of Infamous isn't it h i don't know they finish there a lot yeah I think apparently there's like big sink holes the the roads are really bad there's potholes everywhere and your chain is just rattling around as you're kind of coming into nles like Adam Hansen is the CPA he's the reuter union president and he gets it in the neck for this stuff on Twitter all the time but the problem is how these finishes are decided you have a race organizer who essentially just figures out the route they figure out the route and they say we're going to finish in Naples they plan the whole route now they can go to stakeholder so an example of a stakeholder would be the local Authority the CPA is another stakeholder even maybe consultation with some of the team bosses around these stage finishes but there's no like compulsion on the race organizer to actually give any waste to what the CPA have said I would love to see a bit more transparency around did the CPA actually make submissions around this finish specific speically one in Naples that we're talking about but as far as I know I haven't seen any of that and I don't think you can get access to it but I think you're right it's it is race organizers making stuff more dangerous for our entertainment it's simple as that even if you go on to Discovery Channel where you know in a post gcn world for the app you go on to Discovery Channel now and it has these helpful time stamps to show you stuff but the stuff of interest during the race it's crashes it's crash crash people are interested in it people are if it bleeds it leads people are interested in this we've been interested in this kind of in entertainment or pain for entertainment for the viewer this voyerism since the word goost since we were in the Coliseum watching people fighting lions and tigers and stuff so it's kind of inherent in us and unfortunately this is what gets eyeballs on races this is what gets viewership this kind of Jeopardy and that's like what the organ organizers what cycling what live sport has is this kind of excitement and not really knowing what the outcome is and if the organizers are throwing a little bit of salt and pepper in there a little bit of spice and

Consent and risk in pro racing

Making it even more difficult where you know groups are coming down it looks a bit sketchy your heart is in your mouth when you're watching it that is like cocaine I disagree that should be a part of it at all I don't that's part of it no no I agree with you the par should be that I don't think it should be part of it but this is what the human interest is no no you can't broadly say that's the human interest though sah that's like a certain group of people like I hate watching that like I heard of my moue trying to watch it like Grant Thomas talked about leaving a gap so he could see the Pooles in front of him and then to quote him and he said some idiot dive bombs into every time you leave a gap so in that sense writers don't help themselves yeah but it it's terrifying like when I see these finishes I feel like oh I'm back in a race and the exact same thing is happening to me and I hate that feeling I hate watching the race now KN that that's somebody's son knowing that that's somebody's husband that that's somebody's wife their boyfriend girlfriend and they're watching it just like on their wits end I hate that that's a part of the sport but you're so close to racing and have been so close to racing and I don't think that that's everyone's view point I mean take the Sprint finishes for instance they are that's another kind of massive case of Jeopardy where everybody knows has a kind of understanding as to how dangerous it is how quickly it can go wrong and that's the draw that's the pull that's the excitement more eyeballs on the screen more eyeballs on the races bigger and more and better sponsors that will come to the sport but the risks need to be risks that the Riders are consenting to take that's where it's different so if we talk about a Sprint finish the risk the Riders are consenting to take is they're buying off each should or they're going through gaps a risk they're not consenting to take is the legs of the barriers sticking out and they hit the legs of the barriers that cause a crash I think that's where the difference lies and the Finish in Naples I've no problem with there being a twisty parkour load of torns with sink holes and massive potholes it's not a part of the game I think it's ex the Sport's dangerous enough exactly it doesn't need this extra that's exactly what this riter wrote in just that it's a crazy dangerous sport regardless without all of these extra bits being thrown at the Riders I think the CPA does a good job we've had Hansen on the um on the podcast and he's a brilliant Advocate I always say he shoots from the hip and he says it as it is I'm just wondering about you know okay Grant says it he comes out straight and says it that was absolutely idiocy kind of having that finish but can The Writers come together in an even more conjoined way and say let's Revolt let's not do this let's no they're notoriously disjointed that's that's the problem because you've got the Young Writers coming up and they're like oh it I'm Invincible that doesn't matter to me and then you've got the writers like around here like this is just crazy crazy crazy crazy so that's that's the CRA that's the crazy world of racing number two Ro man I know how serious you take your goal setting whether they're Fitness or life related goals if you're looking for a powerful alloy to support you on this journey look now further than heu heal has become my secret weapon for when I don't have time to prepare a balanced meal ensures I get the nutrition I need without sacrificing time or taste plus it stops me from reaching for that takeaway menu I always throw a bottle into my backpack when I'm heading into the city to work and it stops me eating junk convenience food snacking on crossons and bars of chocolate because I know they don't support my training goals it's a handy nutritious meal on the go and it's got over 22 grams of protein hule is perfect for athletes that don't have time to cook or prepare food before a training session it's convenient nutritious fuel at your fingertips ensuring you hit your daily fueling needs for that session H ready to drink has 26 essential vitamins and minerals in every single bottle you're getting a whopping 175 health benefits plus it's made from natural ingredients like Topeka Sunfire seed coconut and more the best part it's the flavors there's eight crazy beautiful flavors iced coffee is what's in my backpack right at the moment you can get hu directly to your home all you got to do is

Low testosterone: what to do

Head on over to the hu website hu.com SL roadman hey roadman I got a full blood work done a few few weeks ago and it seems that my testosterone is low not critically but I know this will probably only decline more as I age is there anything I can do to stop this are there Foods or activities that I need to avoid completely and that's from John does he say what his uh testosterone number was didn't give it no didn't give that info so the normal range is 300 to 1,000 for testosterone I think I was around 400 last time I got tested and I wasn't really doing anything to optimize it so I'm going to go back pretty soon and see where it's at I think before you start Assuming he's not a pro and he I'm not sure see thing is does he race does he not race we don't have that much detail maybe if he's watching on YouTube he can pop in the comments and let us know below but if you are racing you can't start approaching stuff like testosterone replacement therapy because it's on the band list if you're not racing you know that's something you could definitely consider but I don't think it's something you should consider until you actually exhaust the other Alternatives maybe there's stuff in your life that will go through which can help you naturally increase your testosterone levels like the basic stuff for creating testosterone which we absolutely need it's vitamin D which I've talked about and zinc because they're the precursors that are crucial for making testosterone they're the raw ingredients so you need to make sure you're getting them either in foods like oysters beef pumpkin seeds for zinc or you're actually just taking supplements for this stuff so that's first then you can dive in and start consuming stuff like healthy fats like avocados nuts seeds healthy fish like tinned mac stuff like that which is also beneficial but I would be inclined to say that you should be not looking solely at the number not looking at and saying okay my number is 200 250 so I'm outside the normal range are you symptomatic I think that's more important so the symptoms of low testosterone there like General lethargy like low energy levels lack and drive you're starting to find it more difficult to put on muscle mass you're putting on weight easier libido is dropping these are Telltale science that you may want to investigate further if they are present you know it is wor maybe talking about if you're not racing maybe talking about going to see someone who specializes in it I would definitely be avoiding stuff like alcohol like endocrine disruptors endocrine disruptors are stuff that's like found in Plastics pesticides other pollutants someone on the podcast talk about toxins again massively important because they all mimic estrogen in the body which inhibits the production of testosterone reducing stress and cortisol levels it sounds cliche and almost no one wants to do it because it doesn't feel like tangible enough to write in a diary to do mindfulness to do meditation but it's all backed in research now that it all helps so yeah there's a lot of stuff you can do to tackle this the first part is being aware of it and then you can start take action okay amazing John let us know how your little beo goes after you take all those actions May don't forget to write in and tell us okay question number four Anthony I've seen a lot of riders in the prop palan wear nose strips do they work and do you ever use them you know the nasal strips we saw T pater were his on the time trial a couple of weeks ago I wor him in the Ross last year oh did you really oh I didn't know that okay so tell us all H it's like a have you wor them never you should wear them down to the gym next time you look like a r spner imagine your sled up and down and there's a spring like mechanism that's in them and it actually physically forces your nostrils open a little bit more now remember this is way back we crossed episode of T which we never even talked about we crossed episode of t con conations last week but you remember with James Nester on the podcast breed yeah like there's a lot of benefits to breeding out of your nose to getting more oxygen through your nose and they help do this there's two sides to it objectively do the work does the data say they work studies are kind of mixed if they work or not the subjective is more important as it is with a lot of cycling stuff you know we talked about do recovery boots work do ice bats work all of it's in the air what matters is do you feel like it works

Nasal strips and gearing explained

And I'd say for anyone that's looking for a little bit of a marginal gain it's a super cheap marginal gain they are worth trying I find that I do breed a little bit easier when I have them on they kind of loosen up as the day goes on though like especially you Sun cream on and then you're sweating they kind of lose their you know you find yourself the tension that they have it kind of it yeah I don't if I finished stage one on right okay yeah like they get halfway through flapping in the wind like on your sunglasses for very they worth trying if pagach is using them look try yeah I had a little look at some of the studies and as you said nothing's definitive I think that they do say that the benefits of nasal dter strips are more pronounced in Endurance Sports that rely heavily on efficient oxygen uptake compared to sports where short births of intense efforts are involved so basically they study professional footballers and urance athletes and they find that the urance athletes actually benefited more from using them but again there's like about 10 studies that I looked at they they've been around years though like I remember Robbie Fowler played for Liverpool when I was like I don't know 10 or 12 and he was wearing them and that's when I first thought all right that's cool he looks cool yeah f is okay next question I saw online that Shimano are releasing a 13 speed but can you explain what a 12 speed or a 13 speed is I'm afraid to ask a stupid question in my Cycling group and that's from Jake and you know what I don't know what 11 12 13 speed is either and I'm sure I am not the only one so for the majority of newish cyclists can you set set this straight for us you used not know the difference between a tire and a wheel though I still get that one mixed up a lot we have a lot of outtakes from Rider support where I talk about tires and wheels and Anthony gets kind of pissed off me because I continue to get it wrong all the time and W our editor and colum have to constantly cut it out to kind of be like oh my God she's talking about wheels and tires wrong again but yeah I mean as I always say I don't even know what the bottom bracket is so explain here what a 13 speed is and why your Shimano really in this hey Ro man excuse the short Interruption I love riding the bike but on account of being so busy with the podcast at the moment I'm now what's called a time crunch Rider I never thought I'd see today but I have a tool I'm using W bike to keep myself sharp and on point with specific sessions to maximize that available training time I have a what bike atam right here in the recording studio beside me and when I have an hour in between interviews I jump on it's removing all the friction points for me there's no more 10 minute setup unfolding legs banging my knees off stuff getting my hands dirty usual connection issues it just works every single time the atom's perfect for virtual racing as well because it has crisp gear changes it has 1% accuracy and it has Max gradient capability of up to 25% if you're looking for an indoor trainer I honestly couldn't recommend this any higher I've been using a walk bike since 2013 honestly it's the last indoor trainer that you're ever going to if you head on over to W bike.com now and use code roadman 10 that's r o a d m n teen and that's going to get you 10% off your W bike I think the easiest way to think about it is uh it's not just the amount of speed you have it's like it's iPhone 12 iPhone 11 iPhone 10 it's the exact same thing it's just the newest version it's their Shimano 13 speed when I started cycling I was on SHO J Ace N speed that was my first group set that I bought the bike secondhand there was 10 speed out at the time I couldn't afford 10p speed so I bought chimano J Ace N speed exact same way as you might have bought an iPhone 4 back in the day and now our latest iPhone is iPhone 15 they bring out a new one each year like pragmatically there are differ the same way there's different processors in an old iPhone there's different components in the new Shimano group set the most notable difference is there's an extra gear each time so when I started out and I had nine gears on my rear block so I could go from maybe I had a range of something like 11 to 23 but 11 to

Evolution of groupset shifting

23 you have gaps in the cassette because of that so you might go from 15 to 17 because 11 to 23 is more than N speed so you had gaps back in the day and then it got to a point where you could have like an 11 to 23 straight through without having gaps and it's just evolved from that but there's to make that extra gear all the time there is like logistical stuff that has to happen the chain has to get narrower each time there has to be more cogs on the back and as they're doing it they just generally update the whole group set so you'll probably have like lighter shifters better front mechs it's totally different to be honest than my old N speed like my NP speed used to shift coming over everyone will remember this if in the comments down below let me know if this is your experience but for a long time if you were in a race and you needed to be in the little ring for the race for this climb and then coming over the little ring it turned into like a a plateau where you needed to be in the big ring you had this moment coming over the top of the climb and you shifted from the little ring to the big ring they would almost say a prayer to the Holy Mary that you wouldn't drop your chain and easily 10% of the bunch would drop their chains going over this it was a very inefficient change from small ring to Big Ring now it's seamless like there's it feels like there's no different shiting on the front and the back like they've done such a brilliant job of evolving each time out yeah it's quite velvety isn't it cuz I know one of the tips that you gave me when I first started climbing was as you are about to get to the top of the hill that's the time to get into your big ring and really push it rather than waiting till you're coasting Down The Far Side and even though your group sets under a bit of pressure to do that it still feels the new stuff so so good you wouldn't have been able to do that you would have to wait till it was off tension yeah to do that and now there there's again a more of an evolution of this not from Shimano but from a company called classified where they have an invisible front Mech it's built into internal in the rear hub so you can shift seamlessly uh they're saying up to like 1,700 Watts or something you can change from Little ring to Big ring with no drop in chainer no come off the power when you'd ever need to shift at 1700 watts to your little ring I don't know that's not even my problem when would I ever be doing 1700 Watts yeah I don't used it in the TT oh okay so it's the first time we've seen classified in a time trial that I know of as well cool little rear disc yeah I think 13 speed I could definitely so basically it's 13 gears as opposed to on the back as opposed to 12 that you ride on I ride on 11 at the moment so it's just more options for gearing for climbing or whatever flat r that and the total upgrade of and the total upgrade yeah okay so you going to get one no okay I'm a Shram man these days you are a Shram Yes except my r r is broke at the moment sh sh folks thank you for tuning to another edition of rer support if you do have questions keep them coming in you can find Sarah and myself over on X and we're going to link that in the description below also you can put your questions in the comments down below we'll troll through those and get back to them next week there's another video up here it's a conversation I had with Dan lorang the high performance physiologist from Bora hrove really beneficial if you're looking to know how to structure your training and down here you can subscribe to the channel next day

FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS

Are cycling race organisers making courses more dangerous on purpose?+

Anthony Walsh and Sarah on Rider Support argue that some race organisers are deliberately choosing hazardous finishes, such as the pothole-ridden Naples stage at the 2024 Giro d'Italia, to generate dramatic footage and attract sponsor interest. They draw a clear line between risks riders accept as part of racing, like sprint finishes, and imposed hazards such as sinkholes and protruding barrier legs that riders have no say over.

when is testosterone supplementation actually necessary for cyclists+

Testosterone therapy is clinically warranted when blood tests confirm genuinely low levels causing symptoms such as fatigue, poor recovery, and loss of muscle mass, not simply when levels sit at the lower end of the normal range. Anthony and Sarah on Rider Support emphasise the distinction between treating a medical deficiency and using optimisation as a euphemism for performance enhancement.

do nasal strips actually improve cycling performance+

The evidence for nasal strips improving cycling performance is weak for most riders, because the limiting factor in hard efforts is not nasal airflow but the capacity of the lungs and cardiovascular system. Rider Support covers the research and concludes they may offer marginal benefit in very specific circumstances, but are unlikely to produce noticeable gains for the average cyclist.

what is different about Shimano's 13-speed groupset+

Shimano's 13-speed groupset adds an extra sprocket to the cassette, allowing smaller jumps between gears and smoother cadence management across a wider range. Anthony and Sarah on Rider Support explain that the technical case centres on more consistent power output, particularly on variable gradients where precise gear selection matters most.

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Key Takeaways

Race organizers have significant power to make courses more dangerous (like the notorious Naples finish), but riders aren't equally equipped to push back—consenting to risk is different from having risk imposed on you.

Low testosterone doesn't necessarily need treatment; focus first on whether you're actually symptomatic (lethargy, low drive, difficulty building muscle) before pursuing replacement therapy.

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A 13-speed groupset is simply the latest evolution of gear technology with one extra cog; the real improvements come from better shifting mechanics, lighter components, and seamless front-to-back transitions.

Vitamin D and zinc are the foundational precursors for natural testosterone production—before considering any interventions, ensure you're getting adequate intake through diet or supplements.

Expert Quotes

"I think the risks need to be risks that the riders are consenting to take—that's where it's different. A sprint finish? That's consenting. Barriers with legs sticking out that cause crashes? That's not."

"It is race organizers making stuff more dangerous for our entertainment, it's simple as that... this kind of jeopardy and not knowing what the outcome is—that is like cocaine for viewers."

"The benefits of nasal strips are more pronounced in endurance sports that rely heavily on efficient oxygen uptake compared to sports where short bursts of intense efforts are involved."

KEY QUOTES

“The risks need to be risks that the Riders are consenting to take. So if we talk about a Sprint finish the risk the Riders are consenting to take is they're buying off each shoulder or they're going through gaps. A risk they're not consenting to take is the legs of the barriers sticking out and they hit the legs of the barriers that cause a crash.”
Anthony Walsh — Roadman Cycling podcast host

“The basic stuff for creating testosterone which we absolutely need it's vitamin D which I've talked about and zinc because they're the precursors that are crucial for making testosterone they're the raw ingredients so you need to make sure you're getting them either in foods like oysters beef pumpkin seeds for zinc or you're actually just taking supplements for this stuff.”
Anthony Walsh — Roadman Cycling podcast host

“I don't think it's something you should consider until you actually exhaust the other Alternatives. Are you symptomatic I think that's more important so the symptoms of low testosterone there like General lethargy like low energy levels lack and drive you're starting to find it more difficult to put on muscle mass you're putting on weight easier libido is dropping these are Telltale signs that you may want to investigate further.”
Anthony Walsh — Roadman Cycling podcast host

FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS

Are cycling race organisers making courses more dangerous on purpose?+

when is testosterone supplementation actually necessary for cyclists+

do nasal strips actually improve cycling performance+

what is different about Shimano's 13-speed groupset+

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