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5 EASY FIXES FOR NUMB HANDS WHILE CYCLING

33:57·28 March 2025

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Hand numbness while cycling isn't just an annoyance—it can be a sign of nerve compression that, if ignored, can cause permanent damage. We break down the five main causes of numb hands on the bike and give you practical fixes you can implement without spending money on a professional bike fit. From handlebar positioning to grip pressure to tire pressure, these simple adjustments could be the difference between pain-free riding and long-term nerve damage.

Key Takeaways

Ulnar and median nerve compression from gripping the bars too tightly or in the drops is the most common cause—vary your hand position frequently and use padded gloves or thicker bar tape to reduce pressure
Poor handlebar position (too low, too far forward, or incorrectly rotated) places excessive weight on nerves; raise bars, shorten the stem, or rotate them to a neutral wrist position to fix it
If your frame is too long or you're overreaching, use a shorter stem or slide your saddle forward in the fore-aft position to reduce excessive weight on your hands
Vibration from rough road surfaces (gravel, cobbles) causes nerve irritation; consider a suspension stem, carbon handlebars, wider tires, or dial in your tire pressure with a calculator
Core strength and overall bike fit matter—weak glutes or improper saddle height force you to lean forward and compress nerves; the numbness often gets worse late in rides as fatigue sets in
Make one change at a time and keep a training diary to track what works; don't change 15 things at once or you won't know what actually solved the problem

Expert Quotes

"You can compress those nerves in the wrist to the point that they don't come back—some Ultra cyclists have totally lost feeling in their hand forever."

"Performance is better if you need to be comfortable on the bike, but looking good on the bike does give you a little bit of a pep in your step and more motivation to go out."

"No one's really going to care about your goals as much as you do unless you pay someone to care—that's why having a coach is so valuable."

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Fixing numb hands on the bike

Num hands on the bike it's not just annoying it could be wrecking your nerves in this video we're going to break down the real causes and the simple fix that will keep your grip strong and your cycling painfree Anthony okay let's cck straight in I've heard that hand numbness on the bike is a sign of a bad bike fit but what part of the fit is actually to blame is it my handlebar position my saddle height or something else I don't think I can spend on a bike fit at the moment so any advice would be amazing that's a really good question and it's a very common question and any of us that ridden for long enough will have experienced especially if you've delved into the fascinating Grim world of ultra cycling you'll have experienced that pain in your hands now I've interviewed quite a few bike fit Specialists and physio so I've tried to aggregate the best of the information I've got from them in answering this the most common uh problem that causes it seems to be a compression of the oler and median nerve so that's constant pressure on the nerves the front your palm from gripping the bars too tightly or for too long especially when you're in the drops it seems to happen you can vary your hand position frequently to stop this you could use a paded glove or ticker bar tape or double wrap your bar tape a lot of the Riders racing rubet will double tap will double tape their bar tape handlebar designs have got more creative in the past few year so you could use like an ergonomically designed handlebar and just ensure your wrists aren't bent at a crazy angle you see some Riders especially on the clob Ron like I'm just going of nosy and observing and people have their wrist bent at very extreme angles and that puts a lot of pressure on that oler nerve that we're talking about but in general poor hand and handlebar position is going to be the cause so secondly I think you should look at that handlebar position because bars that are too low too far forward incorrectly rotated they're going to place excessive weight on that nerve and that's going to cause that problem so to fix that you could raise your handlebars a little bit more you could shorten the stem you could rotate your handlebars to more of a neutral wrist position so you don't have that extreme Bend or he said in his question that he doesn't have money for a professional bike fit but that will take all the guessing out of it you can make a change but only make one change at a time and then observe it and then come back and actually write down in your little Diary of your training Peaks how did I feel and try that maybe a couple of times before you come back undo that change make a different change don't change like 15 things at once cuz then you won't know what worked and what didn't another one that could be causing it is again based on the same thing just over reaching but it could be because the frame is too long you're stretched out too far so your hands are putting ex excessive weight on them again so to fix that you could use a shorter stem you could adjust the saddle forward in the four and half position by sliding a little bit forward or look it could be as simple as you've really poor technique and you're gripping the bars like white knuckling it like a deck grip like you see a lot of newbies down on the sense lastly it could be a shock absorption issue he doesn't say if he's riding Road or if he's riding gravel but if you're riding gravel or if you're riding a lot of cobbles and there's vibrations coming through the road surface that can start to really clatter you like you know most people probably haven't raced on cobbles but if you race on cobbles you're already beat up the next day it's because the surface is so bad so so you could consider adding in like a suspension stem Specialized or playing around with that at the moment you could use a carbon handlebar to absorb some of that or you could just go with wider tires or get your tire pressure a little bit more dialed and as always I'm going to plug our tire pressure calculator here I'm going to leave the link for that below cuz so many people are just riding around with the wrong tire pressure perpetually riding around at the wrong tire pressure usually so we got that tire pressure gauge when we were in Jona last time and now I'm just addicted to every time I'm going out looking at the conditions weighing my bike weighing my system putting it into the tire pressure calculator and then actually using the digital like gauge to check it out because most track pumps like their margin of error is huge and it's the difference between like a bad ride and a good R it almost feels like you're eyeballing it a little bit like is the needle it it just doesn't feel very exact that little piece of Kit I don't know it's just kind of fun to use especially like the Sila pump we have where the to pressure gaug is at the bottom I can't see it at all it's miles it's like 4 foot away from you you need laser surgery see yeah you can't see you're like watch does that say I love that pump as well I think that's brilliant advice oh I mean I think yeah you've kind of focused on The Handlebar there but if you do have a really horrendous position on the bike if your saddle height is wrong if you've changed your crank lengths like there's if you change your pedals it's those three points of contact with the bike isn't it like if your saddle height is wrong you're probably going to be leaning more on your hands or less on your hands or the pressure on your hands isn't going to be correct so everything's not kind of smooth running smooth you're kind of over overcompensating for other positions on the bike or even if your core strength isn't that good if you're missing a bit of strength in your glutes you could be leaning that little bit further forward and putting more pressure on your hands as well yeah and that's interesting because that's why it manifests itself later in the roid when you do have that core stability starting to fail a little bit so you're not holding yourself up as much as you should so you're just plowing that pressure straight down through those nerves in the wrist and you know you can compress those nerves in the wrist to the point that they don't come back some Ultra cyclists have totally lost feeling in their hand forever yeah I uh I certain I do get numb hands but more so when I haven't been on the bike for a long time I go back on the bike and I get that like little bit of numbness my fingers are feeling I'm like are these my fingers they feel like sausages here two of our friends wrote A couple of years ago to race around Ireland on tandem Peter Ry and Sean hassie and H was a bike mechanic at the time and he couldn't use his fingers afterwards for a long time wow I they they had to move him into the sales no better man I actually think that that's such an interesting question I think it's something that a lot of people deal with I do think it's kind of complicated so if you have a birthday or a something coming up ask for a bike fish okay next question I'm training for a multi-day stage race and I've struggled with fueling properly for backtack hard race days on day one I feel great but by day two or three my stomach is in bits I'm bloated cramping and sometimes ev even struggle to get food down I know I need to keep my carb intake High to stay competitive but I think I might be overloading my gut how can I optimize my carbohydrate intake to fuel well without causing GI distress are there specific carb sources timing strategies or G training methods I should be using yeah yeah I think it could definitely give a couple of pointers here glucose and fructose combinations they improve absorption and they've typically been a little bit easier on the gut so you could aim for something like a one to one ratio to two products like Morton Precision fuel s beta fuel or enervis they use this blend and anec doubtly I found them a little bit easier on the stomach when they have that blend but the data also says that most people find them a little bit easier as well rotating between liquid carbohydrates gels and real food like rice cakes bananas white bread with honey this really helps an awful lot as well after the race we're running into something called glycogen re-uptake window so where body is more sensitive at taking back on glycogen straight after the race so you want it in that period although it's sensitive at taking in any type of glycogen after the race if you have GI issues you want to focus on low fiber lowfat options immediately after the race you're looking at white rice white bread plain pasta uh what's that the brand we use here is ambrosia for pudding yeah anything like that recovery shakes they're going to be quite good and avoid heavy fibrous foods like beans raw vegetables or high fat meals avoid them until later in the day timing also matters so when you eat matters so he's aiming for his what did he say 80 to 100 gram during the race if you go can handle that go for it but you need to be practicing that in training in advance you can't and this is difficult because it is quite expensive you know what's a Morton gel IS350 or something so it can start to get expensive but if you don't do it and trying and you can't just come to it on race day and expect that it's going to work within 30 minutes post stage we talked about that glycogen reuptake window but then the evening meal in a stage race is also really important so you're looking at calculating your carb intake based on the intensity and severity of the stage rates but you're probably looking at somewhere like n of 150 gram of carbohydrates if it's any sort of stage race in the evening and you know honestly maybe up as much as 300 grams and the breakfast before the stage is again in order and we have uh actually need to make an evening meal C calcor but I've al already created a what's for breakfast calculators you can put in the type of ride you're doing the intensity the duration and then it'll calculate and tell you exactly how many grams of carbohydrates you need for that roid I'm going to keep adding resources into that totally free roadman tool kit that we're going to keep throwing resources into to help people that are with questions like this so if anyone has suggestions of stuff they're struggling with to throw in let us know and we'll keep adding them in there is some supplements actually I haven't played around with these CU I haven't had these sort of absorption issues probiotics and digestive enzymes they may help the bloating and cramping electrolytes with sodium also help because dehydration and low sodium all contribute to GI issues particularly when you're trying to absorb carbohydrates and yeah that's basically it for me I think back to nearly the same advice on bike fitting it is useful to have a diary to monitor what's worked and what hasn't especially because it is quite complex when you're looking at different sources of carbohydrates and timing of carbohydrates versus the type of race you're doing cuz something might sit well for a Criterion but it mightn't sit well for an ultra endurance race so just being a little bit dialed in and having the awareness to diary that when it helps yeah I think that's a really good advice I think as well we we had um a really good nutritionist on the podcast a couple of months ago Sharon Madigan yeah she's brilliant and she was kind of saying that you know sometimes you have to throw out everything that you should be doing for your body you know 80% of the time and when it comes to racing you have to kind of turn that on its head a little bit so you know nine nine times out of 10 having a healthy breakfast with protein like oats with protein through it or eggs or something that's kind of what you want to do to give your body nutrients but on race day and considering how your body reacts to these things sometimes you just want simple curbs your body might actually do better with something like coca pops which has very little nutritional value but your body might actually be able to absorb that and use that better on race day that's a good idea actually I forgot you said that yeah so you do kind of need to yeah not like obviously throw your health you know out with the the bath waterer but just for around race time uh kind of change your thinking about what you're putting in your body but it's also like to double on that point because I can recall parts of that conversation now on something that really surprised me because that recommendation for me is you're saying yeah okay I'm going to put my health over here on a shelf and I'm not going to focus it on I'm going to focus on performance for today but she went on to elaborate on that and said that actually the most detrimental thing you can do for your health during exercise is to be under fueled in terms of carbohydrates because that has severe implications for your goat microbiome and knock on effects on immunity levels so it might on the surface level seem like your compromising your health but you're actually not by making an inferior dietary Choice exactly like they always say before for a big race or a big event you know try and have even simpler forms of protein that you can break down so don't have a steak it takes way longer for your your body to break down red meat than it does chicken or turkey so that's kind of one thing that you don't want to overload your body with things that are very very difficult to break down as well so yeah look again similar as to the other question it's also personal isn't it and you really do just have to play around with it and make note of what works and what doesn't Roan whether you're a weekend warrior or a world tour Rider the right tools can make all the difference enter four eyes Precision tree plus parameter the latest Innovation from 4i designed to help you reach Peak Performance the 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and peace of mind all inone learn more by visiting for iii.com that's for iii.com I'm put that in the description down below okay next question Anthony who's going to win Parry Ru Bacha versus MVP yeah just got announced that Pacha is doing par Ru none of us really expected Pacha to do par Ru until we seen that footage of them about two three weeks ago on ardan Forest I think it was or car for de labra training on the cobes and everyone was like what's Pacha do in Ru and it started this circus of wiie roid Wily not I thought he was just teasing everyone but apparently he is he's going to ride Ru so we're going to have pogacha versus Machu vandero round two yeah part two we had the showdown in Milan Ramo which was like we were glued to the TV it was like a batttle for the ages it was so amazing watching somebody hang on to pachu wasn't it and I mean who would be favored here between MVP and pogy for Ru look considering the you know how tough is the cobbles the climbs all of that kind of stuff yeah it's it's MVP again there it's there's no climbs of no really for Ru so it's going to be full on MVP cuz pogy does like he needs the really long steep climbs doesn't he to kind of drop the other guys yeah Flanders and stuff starts getting is more interesting for pogy because you have those little Bergs where he can potentially make separation but Ru just been pan flash hard racing cobbles exposed roads wined Vander paaul previous winner cyc cross skills it's made for vanderp Paul but you just can't really Pacha off yeah I know he's epic oh I can't wait okay next question Anthony I recently picked up an assos Jersey that fits like a dream but my go-to bibs are Rafa pro team is this a style crime or does performance Trump brand loyalty will the hardcore style police call me out for mixing premium brands or is this an overblown rule that only the most snobby Cafe Riders care about basically what's the etiquette here and where do we draw the line between looking dialed and looking like I just threw on whatever was clean I think you're the style police in this house so do you think I don't know I mean I think that mixing I certainly mix Brands all of the time um yeah we were kind of chatting about this offir I think obviously performance is better if you're you need to be comfortable on the on the bike not getting saddle sores and you know going out in confidence that nothing's going to be hurting you when you're out there but I do think that looking good on the bike does give you a little bit of a pep in your step and a little bit more motivation to go out we we've been chatting about this a lot here Anthony still thinks that I look like an awful Fred when I go out on the bike oh this is this is a new revelation for me because he only kind of admitted this about two or three weeks ago get better you're like oh Sarah sometimes yeah I didn't want to say it but you just look like a you look like a really some people get now you're not fully in this category but some people can have really nice bike really nice kit but somehow they make it look really bad they wear the helmet and it's just crooked crooked the glasses are just on kind of sideways the case is like not that it's not clean but it just doesn't fit right org badly put together so I don't think it's really as much about Brands as it is about a little bit like if you took it out of the cycling world and into the fashion world like you can tell walking down the street like someone from France they just look well put together French Italians somewhere from Newcastle probably looks a bit sloppy not to pick on the Newcastle we're GNA get load but you know what I mean The Stereotype on it is like it lead it's like oh yeah they're well put together it's the same with cycl some of them just look well put together I don't think there's a brand loyalty you don't need to wear all the same Brands but some roers definitely know how to mix and match the Bron so looks cool yeah I think yeah I think if you're going to put on an assess Jersey that's a luminous yellow and then put it on with a really kind of muted Brown Gile or something like try keep the tones all together is horrible that was just an example is horrible isn't it I know it's like safe for all be wearing hi visible yeah it's horrible yeah it isn't great I think I think mix I as I said I mix uh different brands all of the time but I just try and get it so it looks a little bit coherent not completely sometimes you succeed and Anthony I've I started asking Anthony is this okay what does this look good you have you have uh a couple of bug bears that I do like length of zip gine not matching the jacket glove color socks over the leggings socks over the leggings is gone I'm bringing it I'm trying to bring it back I'm trying to bring that back I think that looks so cool I love the socks over the leggings look okay next question all right Anthony I need an honest answer do do putting a kickstand on a road bike make me a complete cycling Outcast I get that the pros don't use them and yeah I know they add a bit of weight but is it really that bad I'm sick of awkwardly leaning my bike against walls or finding a safe spot at the cafe would adding a kickstand be a practical genius move or is it the ultimate roie fuxa am I about to be excommunicated from my club if I bolt one on yes you will I you be excommunicated the club I don't think that'll happen first I think you'll die on a descent first you'll be going around a corner and the kickstand will open up at like 70k an hour and you be catapulted over the hand I don't think that can happen but the way they're fitted like that that it can't just open because the way you'd have to be reversing for I know if you were railing a corner imagine peock Railing at the sent with a kickstand on and it's just opened no kickstands don't work on road bikes at all carbon fiber strong but it's not designed to handle clamping pressures or to you know in areas like chain stays seed stays anything like that like it's it's strong and it's robust and it's you know horizontally stiff vertically compliant all those things but clamping pressures are no no I just think also it's super dangerous also like it it's so weird that you can't just lean your bike against the wall it's so less obstructive than taking up the whole sidewalk with your poxy stand and your bike in the middle this has to be one of the most random questions that we've received in so far it's absolutely let me go straight to watch the good lads are the good lads putting a kickstand on maybe they are maybe they are they're not okay moving on to the next question R man I'm going to date myself here but I've been riding the bike for almost 20 years and in that time I've cycled through every cycling apparel brand out there and I kept swapping out different apparel Brands each season until I found laal there's something really different about laal and as soon as you slip into the gear you notice it feels different it feels better I've had the pleasure of chatting with yanto Barker on the podcast he's the lall founder and his dedication to crafting the fastest most refined cycling apparel out there it's nothing short of inspiring yanto isn't just trying to create gear I get the feeling he's actively and obsessively trying to perfect cycling gear trust me as soon as you slip on the theall kit as soon as you zip up that Jersey you can feel that commitment the proof for the call it's in the pudding this is the same kid the Jay hindley War when he clinched overall victory in theur Natalia there's a confidence that comes with wearing apparl that's been battle tested and Podium proven in races like the year Italia trust me feeling good on the bike means you're going to perform better if you have a second I highly advise you to jump on over to lol.

Club culture only celebrates racers

CC and check out their amazing range kit and experience this feeling for yourself Anthony I'm not the strongest rider in the club and I'm never going to win races but that doesn't mean my goals don't matter I put in the work I train I push myself but if it's not race results it feels like no one in the club takes it seriously I recently hid a huge personal M Milestone my longest ever ride and a big climb I'd never managed before and no one even acknowledged it if I'd won a local crit there'd be endless pats on the back why is it that club culture only seems to celebrate racing while the rest of us chasing our own goals get ignored am I just being overly sensitive or is this a real thing I tell you a little from column A a little from column B I think there's definitely like a visibility bias races are public they're timed and they're binary so they're very easy to measure and they're very easy to celebrate also there's a legacy mindset at play here many clubs were founded on racing routes so culture follows Legacy and the currency in a lot of groups the hierarchy is based on performances within races so that becomes kind of the default currency within groups so I I think all that being said it means he's not really kind of imagining it but something we've kind of also talked about before is no one really cares that much about anyone else's goals like they say they do but everyone especially athletes are so self-interested and so self- motivated nobody's really cele crating someone else's goals too much and this is why I think the main advantage of having a coach because your coach is yeah it's a monetary relationship but the exchange of value is they're going to give you coaching information but there're a person in your corner who cares as much about your goal as you do CU your partner your children your clubmates no one's going to care about that as much as you do unless you pay someone to care oh I couldn't agree more I I also think that you you should be looking for this inter it's the internal Journey rather than external validation that's kind of I mean this year I have set myself some really really massive goals and I've been off the bike for about three and a half weeks now with a knee injury and I'm stressing out and worried and it's constantly in my mind and you know no one else gives a no one even cares that I'm really doing bad lands I'm sure they're kind of like watching the journey in a little bit of a like oh how is she going to get on but no one is as obsessed with the journey or the event or how I get on or my results or my feelings during it as myself and you have to kind of really remind yourself of that as well it's like how do you know that somebody's run a marathon they'll tell you you know what I mean it's like don't become that boring person that makes it all about you what I would say um to this person is how are you at giving praise to other people within your group that haven't hit a huge personal Milestone that have just managed to hold on at the back of the group on the Saturday spin or Joe so if you start to praise people within the group for their Milestones maybe that will be reciprocated back like create the culture if it doesn't exist exactly create the culture and kind of I think that's good advice and then also maybe just get some more recycling buddies who are into the things that you are so like the sportifs those big days out and then kind of have a group of friends there with you that really appreciate those big wins that you have in your head that's good okay next question Road man a brief Interruption summer is coming and let's be honest we all want to be out on the roads riding our bikes and Ruby gets that that's why they've built in smart benefits to make sure you're only paying for indoor training when you're actually riding indoors a common sense company instead of counseling just pause your subscription for up to 180 days a year and you'll keep your account you even get 20 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aren't uh straa junkies but a k m basically is King of the mountain and it's a segment isn't it it's fastest time up climb fastest time up a climb exactly like yeah you're talking about the people the way for the perfect conditions the saying people it's a time record like why would you try and do a time record into a headwind you're obviously going to do it into went uh if you can spring out of a group and do it brilliant a lot of the K are set in races on group rids brilliant motor pacing it's not allowed it's against the straa rules so that gets flagged so yeah I think but how would that get flagged I mean no one how would anybody know if you're getting motor paced power to speed ratio Al yeah because it'll go like you're doing 45k in ER 200 Watts how's that possible but if so and so somebody like like let's say right I want to do a q which is Queen of mountain on our local CL time and I asked you and Daniel and sha McKenna and a few of the really strong guys to write in a group at me and Lead Me Up it is that not the same is that the same as motor pacing or is it totally different no no cuz a motor has to stay obvious like it's I know but you guys are literally probably twice as strong as me so therefore I'm getting the draft defend your whole day so the motor pac's really only comes in at speeds above what you could typically ride at like so if you have like stra algorithm is getting better at catching cheaters and that's essentially what you're talking about here catching people who are cheating being in a group is not cheating in cycling you're allowed be in a group but if being on the back of a car is cheating in cycl so they have an algorithm that differentiates power patterns speed patterns torque patterns based off being on the back of a car and being on the back of a bunch because they know roughly what to be bunches travel they also have the data from people that were in the group which are that day yeah so it it's quite SM catching them do you think morally then I should I could go try get a k with a bunch of men who can help me get up that climb a lot quicker and do you think that that's well it's not morally it's like straa has a set of rules so like if you want to impose or someone else wants to impose their own morality on straa set of rules they can but straa has a clear set of rules on stuff you can do and stuff you can't do if you're going to take a k or a q what do you think like yeah if you're in a group go for it yeah okay next question Anthony how much does roer size really matter with disc brakes should I be running 160 mm front and rear or is 140 mm racher just as good for Road riding and again for newbies explain what a rotor is a can you explain what is yeah it's the there's a couple of components in your brakes and the rotor is the big disc disc the big disc lot of people don't know what that is you're getting you're getting good yeah so 160 mil is the size of the disc or 140 mil is the size of the disc the rotor size definitely makes a difference because it's talks about or it refers to the surface area that's grabbing onto so a bigger rotor is going to have more leverage stronger breaking 160 mil rotor it gives noticeably more stopping power and heat dissipation than 140 mil rotor especially on Long descents are in wet conditions do you remember we went to Columbia and we descended Alto theas the 80 km long climb you're descending for I don't know 2 hours going downhill if you're on the brakes a lot your Rim start to get super hot we were on rim back then but now you move that to rotors if it's 140 mil you've more or you have less surface area to heat up so the whole thing heats up faster than if you have 160 mil so if you're in an area like that it really matters so one of those things that rotors affect is that heat management like larger rotors are going to deal with that heat buildup better which reduces breake fade on long and Technical descents modulation also changes bigger rotors tend to have smoother modulation that's just like more control over the braking Force especially when they're up front because that's where most of your hard breaking happens I'd say for General Ries if you're not going down crazy although theas descents 140 mil front and rear is totally fine and that's because there's a weight consideration on the bike is it or is it just aesthetically or why would you I mean why would why would you not why would you not have 160 yeah uh there's a tiny way component probably a small Arrow component as well but it's just I think because it's unnecessary they just come as standard cuz yeah I I guess you could extend that rational I don't have a good answer for it as to why 160 then and why what not 190 or 200 I don't know why they picked those but 140 seems to be totally adequate for Road rid and Road descents unless you're like crazy mountainous descents like we talked about or you're a heavier Rider or you're a super aggressive descender which hopefully you're not in that bracket because you're going to have a short life you can go different front and back like you could put 160 mil up front and 140 on the back that's a good balance for good stopp and power why would you why would you have 140 on the back cuz surely you're using your rear brakes more than your front Brak no your front brake does way more stopping oh does it yeah okay I don't know the percentage but I would say 70 or 80% of your sto power the coming through your front and then if you want to go front and rear you're looking at long Alpine descents or off-roading yeah jeez that um descent off ala to L is like we stopped in the middle had a lunch it was insane I stopped in the middle going up as well had lunch I didn't stop at all cuz I knew if I did stop I would never get on the bike ever again catch you on that no Anthony you were like giving it all I I I started climbing probably about 3 hours before you and you're like oh I'll I'll catch her at like the third Village up or something sure I was at the top no I was at the top waiting for you freezing that was one of the hardest days of my life Ro man thank you for tuning in to another episode of roer support there's another podcast up here which you are going to love also please take a second to click on the link Down Below in the description and that's going to take you to our roadman community where we have that free tool kit with all our resources including the what for breakfast calculator we talked about tire pressure calculator loads more stuff the link to join that is just down below and also subscribe to the channel and we'll talk to you next day

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