Hello you beautiful cycling fans, it's the A1 Show
Hello you beautiful cycling fans, it's the A1 Show. I've got a very special Podcast today. This is the first time since the A1 Show went podcast that we've brought on a show guest So I'm super excited about today's show guest. I'm gonna keep being a little bit of suspense As I explain a little bit about this man I wanted to get an insight into the world tour. I also had on tip of my mind a question that I started which I wanted to get answered and I was posed by a picture I posted on social media a month ago, a joint of wealth and it was a bad crash that one of the Katyusha guys had where his knee looked like it was stitched up by a butcher and so I wanted to get an insight into that and I'd been talking to this guy on and off on Instagram about that. And so today's show guest, it is Scott Morphy. He is the physio from Michelton Scott, a world tour team. He's done a bunch of grand tours. I introduced him in a little bit, so I'm going to let you guys enjoy this podcast. It's a great insight into life in the world tour, where we cover everything from train and tricks and hacks to funny stories on the world tour. It's a great insight. And He's also living in Ireland, haven't fallen from an Irish girl, happened to many a good man. So before we get started, I want to tell you about two things. Firstly, something I've been talking about quite a bit recently in private and I wanted to start bringing it out to you guys. When I got started on my journey in cycling, I made a lot of mistakes. I went down a lot of dark alleys and I made 12 months of trial and error. So there was a, I had my Eureka at a moment, I used to train with a buddy of mine and I came to know him before he was a training partner. He was a world horror writer writing for Sky at the time and like, I basically teased out show of course the conversations where he's like, you know, there's a system that is an every training, every world horror guy follows this same system, there's a pattern, you know, success leaves, clues and you know, all the world horror guys just hack this system and They looked at what the world's org has before them done. And as a consequence, nearly all them were following a very similar system. So I wanted to talk about, I'm going to drip feed it in over the course of our podcast and the common ones, and sort of slowly unveil what this system is. But one of the key parts of it that underpins the whole system, it's strength and conditioning. He explained to me that it didn't have to be crazy strength and conditioning plan, but you have to do the right things. And he explained this to me like a chassis on a car. even the most powerful supercar in the world, the most powerful engine. If it has a weak chassis, it's not going to perform. So before we can get any training to take effect, before we get into threshold session, sweet spot sessions, micro-borsets, all this stuff, that we're going to talk to you about how to build sessions. You have to fix that chassis. The chassis has to be firing on all cylinders. That's otherwise we start getting injuries, we start having poor power transfer. If you go into a training plan without addressing this stuff, you're just, you're setting yourself up for failure from the start. So I wanted to give everyone access to this. But I also didn't want to give it away for free because I knew if I gave it away for free that you guys wouldn't value it. You know, I had a football manager back in the day and he made a videotape of a bunch of my games, but then he made me pay him for it because as the story goes, he said, you know, if I give this year for free, you won't value it and you'll never watch it you'll never learn from it. So he made me pay for it even though I had very long money at the time. I paid for it and a small amount but I paid for it and I valued it and I learned from it. So that's exactly what I'm doing to you guys. So I'm gonna put the link in the show notes for the strength condition. It's a small token price for the strength condition plan. It's less than the price of one PT session. Go get that. Check it out because that's what we're gonna build upon in the coming weeks and months as we get into especially the off-season now because it's an important time of year. So that's the first thing I wanted to drop in before I got you started with our show guest and the second thing I wanted to drop in is a big thank you to our sponsor ClickFunnels.
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He's like the George Best of Hockey at the moment
He's like the George Best of Hockey at the moment. And he was out for like an undefined period. It's banned by the league because he had concussion symptoms. They were looking at like a deviation from his baseline testing. Do you guys do anything like that? Yeah, the guys would be Scat Tester or Cog Sport Tested at the start of the year. I'm pretty sure. I suppose the difficulty with my role is I do race days. I don't do training camps. So we've got other medics that will do with the guys on training camps. And if there's any preseason, that's where that's done. I have a very limited role in terms of concussion with the guys purely because if they're concussed, they're out of a race. So I will have little to do with them. And the doctor tends to take the lead there. And if the boy's out of the race, then they're off home. So they're gone in that regard. So what's the biggest races you've done working with the team? Have you worked on grand tours? Yeah. Yeah, I've one of a done three, two of the Francis, four or five gurus and a couple of welders. It's a big, big palmar, is there? Yeah, it's far easier doing them in the bus than it is on a bike. So what's a daily schedule look like on a grand tour? Up reasonably early, I don't work anywhere as hard as the Swannies do, they are the backbone to the team, but a lot of the directors, we're looking after riders and you help the staff out when you can. So a lot of directors would be fairly keen runners, so I don't want to go out for a run in the morning. So particularly if you've got very stressed directors that are a bit wound up, you'll get out for a bit of a jog in the morning, maybe do a boxing session, something like that, just to help them decompress a bit before the day ahead. From there, the riders will get up later than what we would. So you're going to see the riders see if they're all okay, if there's anyone needs treatment, treat them. Then if there's no more my work to be done, I'll jump in and help the Swineys out however I can. Do you mind? A couple of years ago, you guys ran, if anyone hasn't seen it, it's brilliant to go back and watch the backstage pass. Yep. Like that was brilliant. How come that came to an end? Well, we still do run videos for all the grandis. It's our videographer Dan Jones decided, well, has had two kids in, so he had to be a grown-up now. So he's back in Australia and Victoria, so he's got a real job of doing stuff there. We've got a new videographer Sam, who comes in for grandis and is still doing videos. They're really, really good. They're just a slightly different take on what Dan had. Dan was very, very good, it was sort of, it was flooded by the CDPant stuff because no one else was doing it, no one really knew what they were doing. So it was raw, but it was really, really good as a result. Yeah, you had that AC-DC all night long, but already it was just, that was the, like, it's been a sponsor, it's dream, it went viral. Yeah, the unfortunate, the biggest challenge for Dan in those days was people that play music like to get paid for it. So if you tend to stick someone else's music on, and they either ask for a whole bunch of money when YouTube rips it off. So there was a few little loopholes you had to jump through to get stuff up on the web. I guess that's a nice segue into there's a not so much at your level at World Tour, but it's probably going to feed that way. There's a big sponsorship crisis. We've seen a lot of teams close to home here. Wiggens wrapping up, Madison Genesis wrapping up. The future looks uncertain for Canyon, DHB, Bloorhomes. Do you think there's anything we can do with the model at the moment? It seems almost like philanthropy for a company to come into cycling. Just the return on investment looks difficult to get at the moment. Yeah. I suppose the great misconception is in the world too, that we've got money getting chucked out at Slipherine Centre. We don't. We have two sponsors on our journey. Well, two main sponsors, Mitchelton and Scott. Mitchelton's a winery that's owned by our team owner. So, Joey Ryan for pretty much Scott helps us out obviously, but Joey Ryan's pretty much the money behind things. And in terms of return, there's not a lot coming back his way when you look at what it costs. It's not the problem, like right there you've put your finger on it. I watched every single day at Of World's, on a daily Vuelta podcast, probably haven't missed a World Tour race this season, highlights-wise. And I didn't know that Mitchelton was a wine company.
It's a wine company that she's like, you're not going to be able to…
Yeah. And it's a wine company that she's like, you're not going to be able to walk into your local sparrow and pick up a bottle of Mitchelton wine. It'd be very popular in Scotland. It's very, very, in Australia. It's a very, very good wine. But yeah, it's not your standard stuff that you're walking to your local stuff in Ireland or in Europe for that matter. Yeah. It's awkward and like there's your top top top teams, your anyo's and those guys that do have good coin put behind them. But again, when you talk about return for that sponsorship, it's not massive. I suppose with the European teams, the tradition has been that it's television advertising for them. And it does make some sense whereas if you're an international team if you're advertising in France for example If you don't have a market France, then it's it is philanthropy basically Yeah, I've seen you guys have been trying to push the envelope a bit didn't you have something at the web summit last year? You guys had a bus out there Something I haven't seen other teams down Possibly I don't know I think the eight brothers were out. Yeah Yeah, like, spend the web summer. Yeah, we like, like we have staff that are in charge of social media and team profile and that sort of stuff in it. It is pushed very, very hard and teams are trying to be as innovative as they possibly can. But yeah, it is, it's, it's something that I was surprised at when I first got into, to work on recycling was I kind of assumed it to be like Premier Shoot Football where it's money all over the place and it's not, it's not the case. It has that facade and we do cut our cloth accordingly and we like, you got to, if you want the best riders in the world, you do have to pay them good money. But then after that, there is a bit of money, but with some stuff as well. Again, we have Akob Liu here in Ireland that they're obviously there, they're a wonder of welter stage with Denafell. I think that's going to take off them since. Yeah. Denafell actually looks like he could be on the jail if you're to believe someone headlines for a front. Yeah, quite a while. Yeah, which seems a bit crazy. I don't know my background is law and I just think that You know as Regrettable as doping is the punishment has to be proportionate if you're talking about sending someone to jail for 10 years for a dopant Like yeah, where do you where do you go with that? How do you escalate that punishment? I will defer to your your legal expertise. I know arms and legs Legales and stuff it's it is tough And when you look at, I suppose, in terms of presences and stuff like that and what people do do and get far more lenient, presences and I actually hurt people. Yeah, it doesn't seem to be. Staying on the aqua blue one. How were aqua blue? I noted a short spell in size. From outside looking in, it's difficult to know how they were viewed within the penalty. Was there good feelings for some more to them? I think anywhere where a new team comes in, it's always greeted positively because at the end of the day, the more teams there are, the bigger the sport is, the better it is for everyone. Versus, if you want to play it, whoever's got the most money, you will end up with the English premiership where four teams can win. It was definitely seen as, I suppose we had a slightly, I suppose a little bit of an insight into things because Caleb Yoon was riding for a time and Ricky's Caleb's father-in-law. Oh, yeah. So, yeah, we'd have a little chat about stuff. But them getting a start in the Vuelta was absolutely awesome. And for them to get a stage was unbelievable. And it's kind of your dream start for a team. And yeah, it's a sad thing to hear that the team didn't work out after such a good start. Yeah, it's nearly back to what we were talking about to start. It seemed like Rick, you know, I actually rolled for Rick's amateur team in Ireland. I'm still riding for the new incarnation and that, but Rick was great for us. Pomped money into our amateur team, but it seems like when he got up to that level, it was just him pumping money in and he couldn't figure out how to get the money coming back out the far end. And at the end of the, like, he used a businessman and it's, unless you've got this unending cash stream coming in the door, there is a point where you do have to put you in up and going. And he did have a good idea with trying to self-fund the team but it's just really hard. Where do you stand on the safety? I know it's been a it's been the base it's probably for the last decade even since David Miller was kind of at the forefront of roiter roits and things we're talking about that balance of crowd entertainment versus the safety of Reuters in races.
Do you have a stance on that? I suppose the thing that, again, like…
Do you have a stance on that? I suppose the thing that, again, like my background is rugby league and rowing. So if we're rowing, there's no real problems with the crowd because they're on the bank. But like the thing that has always spun me out is how little contact riders have with crowds. When you look at, you look at a Tour de France of 3,500 kays of open road for the crowd to literally stand in the gutter for, the amount of contact that people will have with the crowd is fairly small. When you look at it versus things like course setup or a lot of problems that in the last couple of years is with motorbikes and things like that, that's something that's a a bit more controllable as well than the crowd. If that makes sense, like you can't put crowd control batteries up for a 220 K stage. It's just not doable. Yeah, it's nearly more on like the summit finishes, but it's, it's trying to find that balance of at what point does it take away? Like how much is the crowd a part of Alp DeWeg in a legendary finish? Exactly. Like it's, there's, again, I keep going back to football, but you could never sit there and like you can't stand outside a bus with a bus along rocking up to play against Dundalk United and have a chat to Lionel Messi walking in the gate whereas if you're in the Tour de France we might have a tape up that keeps you from standing in the bus. So the riders coming out you can have a chat to them, you can ask them for their autograph. Like that's I think something is very very special with recycling. And I have to say like I've watched it and I've you know even being in races over in the States and stuff where you've had decent crowds on hills, obviously never to the Tour de France level, but on the opposite side of the fence now is over at the Tour de France last year, Alpe de Wais. You just get sucked into mob mentality. Oh, GJ. And a few beers, the crowds are here, the Dutch corner, it's like, this is fucking amazing. And it's also like, again, you look at Alpe de Wais, I was there two thousand and four. So it was in that time trial up to where it's. And there was supposedly a million people on the hill that day, which is a fair substantially between group of humanity. Yeah. And like the place was chocolates. We were up there two days before and a whole lot. And it's amazing fun. And at the same time, there's also that, I suppose, it's a bit different with the content of European guys. The vast majority of them are very respectful of riders. You do get a, and it is a small proportion when you look at the size of the crowds that are getting away. When you take something like Superman Lopez this year, was that the, you're over, you hit your mind a few boxes? Yeah, which, if you never condone it, but you can't understand it sometimes. And it's, there's a lot of it is excitement, a bit of booze, and wow, there's someone doing something absolutely spectacular. There's very few cases and people actually deliberately getting in people's way or cause and hassle it is a lot of that just over enthusiasm and also a little bit of not understanding what's going on like People don't understand how quick bikes travel. Yeah, I think Vina Cora offers close to condone and he just looked like he didn't give a bollocks Yeah That's you know Tell me is there any crack in the team is a good team to be involved in? Yeah, it's great fun. My wife lovingly reminds me that I'm going on holidays for whatever it is 30 days a year they go over the team. That's her perception of stuff. Because it did it. It's good fun. We work very hard, but people are doing it with a smile on their face. It is like we don't struggle to get staff. We don't struggle to get riders. We don't turn over a lot of stuff, which I think is also a really good sign of the fact that it's a happy team. Well, you also have some of the best riders in the world, which are lucky to work with, like the Yates brothers, Chavez, who, you know, has fast become a kind of a cultural encyclopedia, so he's always smiling. Yeah. And then you have the Irish guy that no one knows about. The Irish guy? Chris. Chris, you're a Jenson. Yep. And he's, yeah, he's a legend of a guy. He's an absolute machining bike rider. So here's a funny Chris story, I'm not sure if you've heard this one. Does a teammate of mine in Ireland, actually from Limerick, Mark O'Callaghan is his name. And Mark was a student two years ago. And he was standing in my house the night before, but he busted the boa on his shoe.
He was racing with his shoes, he didn't have a second set of shoes,…
And so he was racing with his shoes, he didn't have a second set of shoes, so he wrapped a lot of duct tape around his shoe and he ended up winning the race and sticky bottle local cycling web, so I ran an article about, you know, student-cyclist wins race with duct tape all over issues. But Chris Yeoyensen seen this article. Obviously asked around because he'd be well connected in our cycling circles, found out where Mark lived, and he sent them over. Brand new set of shoes, sent them over, you know, oracle bottles, mitts, all all the stuff. But made no fuss of it. Yeah, that may have been facilitated by someone you're speaking to. I actually know Mark. I actually know Mark. All right. He's a great man. Thank you, Chris. Yeah. Mark needs a podcast. Yeah, he's a special dude. Ah, no idea. So have you run the private practice in Limerick as well? Yeah, I got my own practice in motion physio in Valley Simon. So give us a plug there. How can people check that out? Because it's not often you get a chance to work in a world or a physio. I have a website in motion physio therapy dot I E. I'm on Facebook, Twitter, all that stuff. You can ring me. I'll take anyone. I don't just use, I just don't work just with athletes either. The bread and butter is twisted ankles, saw backs or necks, that sort of stuff. But yeah, I'd like to think I know a little bit about bike riding. So if there's anyone that's got stuff up with this, give us a shout. Amazing. It's not off and you get a chance to work with World Tour Fiscios. Two questions, I'm going to let you go, Scott. One, give us a prediction for World Tour Road Race the weekend. Ooh, do I go with my heart or do I go with my head? Give us both. I'd say the fellow that's won it about 8,000 times and up till now is probably a pretty good shot in Peter Seagarn. Yep. I'd love to see Michael Matthews get up, obviously, home down boy. But Sam Bennett's flying as well, so it'll be an interesting race. It could be one of 20 blocks of win it, do you, honest? It's a very open field. It's great. What I just know, so it's right in earlier on with a buddy, and he cycled a lot, but he wouldn't follow the world or stuff a lot, and he was asking me, he was a favorite turn. It struck me to how wide the age gaps are between someone I'm like. We've everyone from Evan Paul. Evan Paul, who's 14, and up to Valverda, who could go again. Yeah, it's absolutely insane. It's ridiculous. Yeah, I'm not sure as a Bugatcher or a Pogacar, however you pronounce his name, like what's he, 18, 19 as well? Yeah, the kids coming through are absolutely ridiculous. So it's insane. But it'll be a super rice. How the hell are I said I don't know. Yeah, it'd be interesting. Last one and when I put it out into our private group that we had you coming on and everybody wanted to know about supplements. So it's the grey area that everybody, I think it's the nature of cycling isn't it that we're all, everyone's looking for that wee little. That's probably why we do have that history of the open culture, because it's the people in a track somewhere, oh, we're trying to get that little bit of an edge. There's a right side of the edge and there's a wrong side of the edge. Yeah, it's the... It's why you stick carbon fiber on the front of anything and you can charge 100 euros more for it. Everyone lines up to buy it because it's magic. Or your bike weighs 3.5 kilos, you weigh 19 stone. Yeah, it is an enormous industry that is based on some at times questionable science. Our guys will, we don't take, there's no magic. I suppose that's the thing is that with supplements everyone's like, yeah, I want that. You look at, I suppose, the sky slash any of us mentality, which is marginal gains, which is awesome. And that's the stuff you chase. you've done the work. So the taken fish oil or whatever else doesn't replace doing decent training. And if you get all that stuff in order first, then you can like anything a supplement is in addition to doing everything or doing everything else right first. So eating the right food, getting enough sleep, doing the right training. And then you know what? If you need that extra half a percent on top, then you take whatever mystical, magical stuff. But like, I guys don't like anything that our guys will take is all because we're an Australian team. Everything is okay by the Australian Institute of Sport. So it's all tested and it's all stuff that has some level of scientific backing. And hence we take relatively boring stuff. So I'm glad you said that because it's a question I get most off and as a cycling coach, you know, what's the magic session?
What's the magic supplement? And you're like, there's no secret
What's the magic supplement? And you're like, there's no secret. Like it's a hard, consistent work. Yes. The consistency is the key. Like you'll get people that'll go out and bury himself. And I did 15 hours on the bike yesterday and you're like, cool. You can't move for the next four weeks. So you've, it's start easy, build up and be consistent with it. It's that just, just like, you're not slamming an island in one hit, you just tap it away at the thing and it'll go in and you won't bend it and you won't, like that's the trick and that's what actually makes you more resilient is that, I suppose, accumulated load with recovery put in and just being smart about it. I suppose one thing I've seen over the years, like I'm in Ireland, what, 15 years now, and you won't get a harder trainer than an Irish athlete, the bit that Irish athletes, and this This is, I've worked with boxing, I've worked with swimming, I've worked with throwing, I've worked with cycling, triathlon, which is massive at the moment. You won't get harder trainers, but you will get people that may not, like, harder isn't always better. It's you can't go out and ride full biscuit every day. You've got to, like, there's a, in a lot of respects, there's a lot of disrespect for recovery. And it's important. As you guys know that, I apologize. I suppose it's the gap you see between really good amateurs and pros is that recovery piece. Yeah. Very last piece. We had Alan Davis on a fellow compatriot of yours. Hadamard and Alan gave us a classic story. Like the finish with a good funny story. So Alan said he was in Tour de France and he was borsing for a shit all day. Like, but the race just wouldn't stop. Like it was one of those days he said and he's just like I needed to go. So he went back to the car, he got a cap. He pulled the scouts down, had a shift, wiped it off with the cap. And he said it was still, without me teal graphic, there was quite a bit of shit left in the cap. And so he said he was looking for a place to toss it. So he tossed it. And then he looked over his shoulder and he seen two kids from the face of the cap. That doesn't surprise me. So yeah, I believe that. Can you top it? You don't need to top it in terms of grotesqueness. Oh geez, poo stories. It doesn't have to be a poo story. We're not just a poo story podcast. Let me think what's not going to get me in trouble. I'm not going to get anyone in trouble. I suppose the difference in what I'm doing compared to what the writers are doing is like we do have a lot of fun and all that sort of stuff obviously it's just like at the end of day this is my job and it's their job as well but I have to have a professional boundary in what I'm trying to do so I'm just trying to think of something that's not going to get anyone chucked under a bus anyway. Are you going to be awkward? I suppose if anyone who's seen the backstage pass with our former director, Neil Stevens, and his interactions with Fruhme, who dropped one of the greatest clangers of all time, he was apparently telling the story in the car about Fruhme and this and that and the other and big laugh within the car and the next thing, Fruhme writes past and Steve tells him the same story and through him he's like, yeah, good one and just pedaled on and ignored him completely. Chris, Chris would be perceived as a very, very straight guy and I think he is publicly, but I think privately he is from what I'm told is sort of a bit of a joker and a bit of a life of the party, which is very, very interesting considering the way he's perceived publicly. Yeah. To be a completely flix diva that day. Yeah, I've heard Chris is very well liked within the team. But, okay, sure, we'll wrap it up there. And so you can check out Scott, what was your website again for people to check out? Inmotionfisio.de. Sweet, so do check them out there if you're in the Limerick area or anywhere in Ireland. It's not a big place. No, it's not a big place. Limerick's wonderful, Limerick's a great town. Bring the start vest. Ah, come on now. We had guards shooting themselves the other day. Scott your legend. Thank you very much. I appreciate it mate. Thanks for your time.