I was over to maximum limit. I wasn't allowed board to fly. I was there for hours in the ghost and really since then I just stopped doing that and my whole airport experience has been much much nicer. But here's the thing you want to consider now when you're thinking bike bag, hard bike box or cardboard box, you might discard cardboard box right off the bat here and say oh I don't need a cardboard box but there's definitely some advantages to thinking about bring in in a car bar box. The main thing you want to consider is the size of the group you're traveling with. If you're traveling in a one or two person group and you've got transportation the far side or you're going to get a taxi the far side, it really doesn't matter what you bring. If you bring a bike bag, brilliant, it's got some safety features like the Skycon bag I brought off a friend I'm using this time and it's lovely. Everything just fits in perfect. It's very little of taking apart the bike. Lower your saddle down. You don't even need to move your handlebars. Take your pedals off, pop your wheels off. And that's it. There's five minutes' work in putting the bike into this Skycon bag. And it's actually the one I use traveling with the tandem as well. Equally, I've used it a VOC bike bag and it's just as nice of experience. Now I'm using a Billy bike box also this time for a second bike. It's a hard case. There's a lot more work in it. You need to take bars off, pedals off, saddle off, seat post down, twist and bars, taking hangers off. There's a lot going on here, but you have a bit more protection because it is a hard case. But when it's just two people traveling or a single person traveling, it doesn't really matter what you do if you're getting a lift at the far side or a taxi at the far side. Where you want to start considering it is I often fly to Gerona and for Gerona, I'll fly into Barcelona because Gerona's only a seasonal flight. And the taxi is super expensive from Barcelona into Gerona. You're looking at 200 plus Europe, taxi and the train is fairly convenient. It's like a 10 minute walk from the airport to the train station and then a 10 minute walk from the train station into the old town, the Barleyville in Gerona. But you do have 20 minutes of walking to do there. So if you've got a box with no wheels, one, no bueno, that is a difficult, difficult day because you're trying to carry your carry on bag. These days now I've my check luggage and you're bringing the bike box. it's just, it's horrible. So you gotta make sure you have wheels for that outcome. But if you are renting a car, and here's the beauty of the car bar box, and we found this one, we used to go to Belgium, and we'd rent the house over in Belgium, we'd go and we'd race there for three, four weeks at a time, and you'd have four guys flying in, you'd rent the car, and then you're driving down to your race, or to your accommodation. So you get there car rental, and you have four hard bike boxes, and four people to get into a car. The maths doesn't work. The bike boxes and the bike bags, they don't fall small enough to get four people into the car plus the bikes. It just doesn't happen. So what you do is you bring a bike rack, like a sea sucker, that you can stuff into one of the bike bags, or you can break it up and stick it into a few of the bike bags. You get there, you stick the sea sucker on the roof, build the bikes, stick the bikes on the roof, and you dump the car bar boxes. And then on the far end, you just need to get more cardboard boxes and you're sorted. Boychops throw these cardboard boxes out every single day of the week because they're the boxes that the bikes are transported in. Any boychop in the world will give you these for free. I typically used to get a couple of old pillows, put it inside, maybe an old blanket, put it all inside, wrap it up and I never, never had a problem with transporting my bike.